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They won't self-custody, but will capitulate to a 50 year mortgage, of which 10% is Blackrock bitcoin ETF collateral. Sad.
It's disheartening to see that my parents, our parents, are being sold the lies of fiat money.
They live their life using this well-camouflaged system, preach it to us, and cannibalise the future generations, without most of them even knowing.
What a sad state of affairs. π
This is the sad reality. Islamic finance is obsessed with trying to make that loan, mortgage, etf, mutual fund, etc halal, but won't even entertain the discussion of taking custody of wealth.
There's really no point in wasting any time with trying to orange pill big name Muslims or Muslim scholars. They don't have a language for sovereignty.
Honestly it's probably not even worth trying to orange pill people like that. They're just not gonna care enough to take custody of their wealth, so by extension they'll never "get" Bitcoin.
Yeah, I actually surrounded by families and friends who still think BTC is a scam yet say "Alhamdulillah" for every loans they've taken, even the loans are burdening them ever deeper. And the words of complaining to pay the instalments, they never see the irony in that π
B stands for Bima Allah
Otawa Bumi
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idk if it is a lack of language. i think it is more an issue of memory. vicegerency, which is where human sovereignty comes from, is an innate part of human nature. the west/Christianity actually got this right (and discovered it from reading Muslims too π€¦π»ββοΈ). we're riddled with kalam/fiqh maxis now who are so focused on manhaj purity that we've become conditioned to embrace fiat in any form. a reversion to medival fudalism would be more acceptable than any based forsight.
Yeah this makes more sense to me. Either way, it's a mentality that's found in every part of every muslim culture, except for Bedouins I guess, but they're purposely not technologically savvy, so while they're the only ones that get the Sovereignty aspect, they're not gonna get the technical. Hard to find the right Muslim audience for this.
welcome the cyber bedouins of the Future
The right audience is Muslim techies like me who are tired of everything fiat like Google, Amazon etc.
But then you get those techies that build closed source systems as "alternatives" and still can't think in terms of sovereignty.
True. There are not many Muslims in the FOSS scene. They all want to become the next Bill Gates or Steve Jobs.
systems of control are inherently oppressive
That's really what we need, an active Muslim FOSS scene. We need that embedded in the culture of online Muslims.
True freedom isnβt doing whatever you want, itβs carrying what Allah entrusted you without delegating the trust.
It's weird because submission before none other than Allah would seem to require self sovereignty and personal responsibility.
Though it's hardly a surprise in any religion to hear that people are following worldly leaders rather than the truest adherence to that which they claim to follow. The way of righteousness is narrow no matter which words you choose to describe it.
