this looks amazing
Quiet - Private messaging. No servers.
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Is it actually Tor based p2p? Like, you send messages to my own onion service with my own private key instead of some middleman server?
How do users find each other? DHT? A lot of apps try to justify lying about p2p functionality by having some of it for after a central server has already been used to connect peers to each other (Soulseek for example)
Homepage fucking baits you into clicking GitHub links by making them look like a normal link to another part of the website
Devs live in La La Land
"in proof-of-concept, Quiet works well as an always-on background app on Android, so Android versions will likely not require a push notification server."
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Looks like it might actually be p2p, users just need a peer to enter with and other peers to find more peers from
Looks interesting. Have you tested it?
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I take it you never tried it because it's not.
This however IS AMAZING!
SimpleX Chat: private and secure messenger without any user IDs (not even random)
SimpleX Chat - a private and encrypted messenger without any user IDs (not even random ones)! Make a private connection via link / QR code to send ...
Yes & it sucks it's been in the same state over a year now.
Why it sucks?
first competition to no-server keet.io messaging app π
I was skeptical about them, but after researching a bit it looks promising. I will test it with my peer for a while
I'm worried tho about battery drainage
Oh... multiple communities is still in future roadmap, this complicate things haha
Tried it a year ago it's super alpha & pretty broken. Looked at it again a few days ago still pretty much in the same state it was last year not a single new feature has been added.
This however is productive & rolling out updates constantly improving & listening to the people.
read the protocol in the docs.
SimpleX Chat: private and secure messenger without any user IDs (not even random)
SimpleX Chat - a private and encrypted messenger without any user IDs (not even random ones)! Make a private connection via link / QR code to send ...
Using it..works great.
That's such a good joke!
SimpleX I ment.
Now you speakin my language!
Quiet founder here!
We're also working on an optional push notification server which is necessary for iOS anyway, so that is our fallback if we can't get full p2p battery life to a good place.
But I can already get through a day with it even though we've done nothing to optimize, albeit with very noticeable battery use on mobile data (Wi-Fi battery use is much chiller).
I'm sure we could reduce drain by 3x by being more strategic about when we hit the network. And yeah, typical push is the fallback we're working on for people who don't want the battery drain.
Like other Tor-based apps like OnionShare or Ricochet, Tor gives us a nice overlay network where every onion address is permanent (it's just a keypair) and NAT traversal is taken care of. So you get an invite link with a few addresses in it and you sync others.
We're also working on an optional server to support notifications on iOS where apps cannot run in the background enough to be useful. We expect a lot of people will use this to improve performance on other platforms too, but you won't need to.
Quiet is still not ready for daily use yet, and not audited, but we're serious about making it useful to small workplace teams and activist orgs that need something between Slack and Signal.
There is no central server but there is a trusted root "community owner" for the PKI.
is keet.io workin at all ?
Good start
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I've been using it for months and with every update it works better and better.
There are some privacy concerns, but the fact it works so great without any servers involved is very appealing for me.
good one !! text team group chat without server
looks great
Welcome.
Have you done any testing on @GrapheneOS? For me, I'm unable to get past "Starting backend". It hangs there for me on every launch.
It's working on Graphene here. I tried creating a community, but haven't had anyone else join.
I see tor and know it will suck and probably work 5% of the time β¦ if youβre lucky.
better than a server owner!
How about connecting a working LN-address, which will enable plebs to zap you freedom money?
Awesome!
How about connecting a working LN-address, which will enable plebs to zap you freedom money?
TOR ? Naaaah ! Thanks but no thanks. Same with Bitchat.
Damned, if this goes on like this, I need a personal assistant to go through all those bookmarks. ππ
Lacks heaps of features keet already has
Try keet.io
Yep
But keet is not open souce. They promised to open source it, but never did. It's been more than 3 years.
True but they have open sourced most of it and keep open sourcing more and have stated many times it will be full open source when beta is finished which looks like the end of this year
I hope it happens.
They have opensourced most of it already but yes the did promise to open source the rest when the beta finishes which it hasn't