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Pretty nice. Base concept is quite simillar to Nostr. Maybe it would be a good idea to merge some ideas.
Has there been any clarity yet as to how the feds got access to CZ's Signal messages (per the Binance filings)?
Good Morning!
Also, unlike signal and session, no shitcoins.
Unlike keet, no IP leaks.
It’s all about correlate information and inference, if you just want privacy..go to a secluded place meet face to face no phone no tech whatsoever. #puravida #nostr
Just like session and briar?
This one looks good. Being serverless is a basic feature in a chat app. Metadata is more than enough to cheat your data. Federated server always end up lying. Keet is open source ?
don't run over tor
@Cyph3rp9nk made me aware of this a few months ago. Sent me down another rabbit hole with privacy that I'm incredibly thankful for!
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No user ID 🤪
When Nostr messaging ???
Piqued my interest until I clicked the 'Hoe it works' link,
To deliver mesages, instead of user IDs used by all other platforms, SimpleX uses temporary anonymous pairwise identifiers of message queues, separate for each of your connections — there are no long term identifiers.
Now I got the mesage.
Still prefer Confide - no screenshots.
I think it's a super intriguing design for maintaining privacy! Though the name keeps reminding me of "Herpes Simplex" 😂
promising
Is there a desktop version? Or would that compromise privacy?
@SimpleX is the best private messaging option available.
It even has self-hosting capability.
lets try it out 
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A wonderful idea with little reception by the masses of users. 💆🏻♂️
Cool, but just onboarded most normie friends to signal...
Ok thanks, I am already using elements messenger which I believe is Matrix based, but this one seems more interesting.
We tried a nostr group on it, but the network was here, so that group chat was shutdown.
Could be a replacement for Signal, but then you’re onboarding family all over again.
Interesting File sharing use case.
I was just thinking a chat platform based on nostr would be amazing, SMP seems to be similar, or am I not understanding the protocol correctly?
Interesting 🤔 will need to test it, sha256, sha512, Ed448 and Ed25519 support...
Hey @umbrel - any chance we could get this added to the umbrel app store? Would love to support and run my own server...
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Are all conversations bi-directional? Or are there multi-participant chats (3 or more participants)?
There are group chats, but the dev said it’s not good for a 1,000+ participants like a Telegram Channel, but could support a few hundred
It looks very nice
Let me see
I’m skeptical of the claim that there are no IDs, “not even random numbers”. Without an identifier of some kind, how can you distinguish who’s talking? Or is it all anons?
I fail to see the benefit over Briar
All good points but I'll stick to Confide thanks mate
Not bad 👌
Going to have to check it out.
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Do not really understand his this is supposed to worki
Why do we need a replacement for signal?
tried to install the CLI but script didn't work for my ububtu OS on raspberrypi, not sure why - tried over ssh and also locally. too bad, was geeked to try it out before descending into the fiat mines today
I've been wanting to try this out too
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Do you know anyone who actually uses mobilecoin on Signal? Seems kinda redundant with so many better options out there.
The Sovereign Bitcoiner group is probably the biggest SimpleX group chat right now ~150), pushing the limits to what the tool can do.
One of the lead devs is in the group and they’ve been receptive to our feedback so far.
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True, but you can run it if you have an M1/M2 Mac.
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do you have the server deets? 
Can’t figure out how to do it on both phone and Mac at same time tho
I get the same. Down?
Beeeeeen using! Highly recommend!
No
That custom relay is indeed down, didn’t realize I needed to remove it before sharing the link. Try this:
SimpleX Chat - Contact
It is down
I don’t think they’re is a capability to sync across devices at the moment. Although you can export/import your chat database in the settings.
I would really love to see this functionality.
Figured. The app didn’t make it entirely easy to acquire it either.
The Ui feel like a 3 letter agency honeypot.
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idk i just like posting links
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This one's working. Thank you.
Herpes was the first thing that came to mind
SimpleX chat and how privacy aligns with the future of computing w/ Evgeny from SimpleX
https://invidious.sethforprivacy.com/watch?v=LrLsS7-woN0
理念很好，但服务器似乎不是很稳定。
我在使用 Mullvad VPN 的时候软件经常提醒我无法连接至服务器。
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i downloaded it. i mean - okay. but how does it bypass the IP address? especially if you use your actual identity for itunes when you download the damn thing - it's not as if the exact same issues with packet delivery don't exist? and in the end - why can't people just send texts. eyeroll. privacy is subjective based on what you imagine it means.
"SimpleX does not, not even random numbers."
--> misleading
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if anyone can do it simultaneously - you can.
totally down.
I’ve been using it for months… it works well and they are adding features… nice to see you noted it, Jack! 🤙🤙🤙
I’m not going to be a rider here… there are so many different “DM” messaging options. How many people are truly that paranoid about privacy to switch to this… I don’t think enough. If you bought it and adopted into cash app or something perhaps 🤔
Instead of folks sharing contacts, since you can literally call them, you can create and share secret groups.
Couldn’t connect 🫤
Ya I had the same issue 🫤
From this picture it looks like Simplex is the Nostr of private messages.
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What does @Edward Snowden think 🤔
Desktop GUI is on it's way in 2023 according to lead dev. Profile syncing like Signal (leader and follower device) is on the roadmap and mentioned here:
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Desktop app (GUI) · Issue #425 · simplex-chat/simplex-chat
Hi, Thank you for this project. It's great to have a new secure messenger. My suggestion is to make a GUI desktop app for Linux. Thank you for your...
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Running my ownSimplexX server since some month and totally happy about it.
@SimpleX Chat is on Nostr as well since a while. I have opened a Nostr group on SimpleX some time ago to find Nostr contacts:
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Thank you for this group.
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Thanks 🤙
Interesting concept. I downloaded it to try. Looking forward to seeing how it performs. I like the privacy aspects. We’ll see……
Much potential! Glad you’re bringing it more attention
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i will try it out again
Nah its fully open source and you can run your own node
No shitcoin
Excellent summary
Why?
I wish Nostr architecture was described as message queues too.
Message queues are great for ephemeral messaging, but once you need to host a web page, or backup important data for long term, you will need more. You will need personal data servers and you will need stable long-lived identifiers and you will need direct relationship with a trusted hosting provider(s), not a loose set of random relays, you will also need versioning like Git and access control like Dropbox or Google drive.
If we don't build that it will be left to AtProtocol and then the did:plc will become the defacto identity for that use case, and that did is even worse than ION, at least ION aims for the right things.
Woo it is a new way
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The concept is good, but not entirely new.
Session have done this nearly 3 years ago.
And (despite most consider a shitcoin) it runs on the Oxen Network (old Loki) and it's incentivized, as we earn Oxen when running our own Oxen server (local or on service provider)
This server has 3 main services - runs the Oxen Blockchain, runs the Lokinet (onion routing) and Session transmission protocol (no data collected).
Regarding SimpleX, there's "simply" no incentive for proper decentralisation, unlike Session.
So, I'll keep with Session! 😎
The concept of "Sovereign Groups" always tickles me. They usually lead to everyone confirming their sovereignty by leaving.
Reminds me of herpes...not that I've ever had herpes. Just sayin' y'know-the name.
Session app is rubbish. I have been testing it since it was Loki messenger. Can't even do the basic operations like cutting and pasting. Moreover it uses a user identifier— doesn't come to any comparison with @SimpleX Chat.
It's multiple profiles, profile hiding, and Self-destructive Passcode features are awesome.
Session app is rubbish. I have been testing it since it was Loki messenger. Can't even do the basic operations like cutting and pasting. Moreover it uses a user identifier— doesn't come to any comparison with @SimpleX Chat.
It's multiple profiles, profile hiding, and Self-destructive Passcode features are awesome.
Session app is rubbish. I have been testing it since it was Loki messenger. Can't even do the basic operations like cutting and pasting. Moreover it uses a user identifier— doesn't come to any comparison with @SimpleX Chat.
It's multiple profiles, profile hiding, and Self-destructive Passcode features are awesome.
For complete privacy and absolute anonymity. For more security. @SimpleX Chat does not need a phone number or email address or anything as an user identifier. It has most wonderful features.
I changed my mind on Simplex, it has huge benefits over Briar and several others. Testing it further!
Signal is centralized and requires phone numbers. Whatever it is, it is NOT anonymous.
Just starting to learn about i2p and lokinet! I did use session for a bit, but didn't read into the technical parts. Also, no one else used it, so I stopped!