Step 1. Install @Wasabi Wallet , send some bitcoin to the wallet, and coinjoin three 1M+ sats UXTOs.
Step 2. Install @ZEUS, and send those UXTOs to this wallet with Taproot address.
Step 3. Open three 1M+ un-announced(private) LN channels with each one of the UXTOs, with Simple Taproot enabled.
Step 4. When paying in LN, use MPP (payment is split into parts / uses multiple channels).
Step 5. When receiving in LN, use LSP wrapped invoices or Blinded paths.
You could also use multiple custodial non-KYC wallets like @Mysterious Hamster as decoys, or for quick swaps, or to manage liquidity of your node channels.
This whole process takes 5 minutes to setup. No one needs a shitcoin.
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congratulations you did the meme.


it doesn't take only 5 minutes.
you cant quantify the privacy gained by any of those steps.
ie, you have no idea what information what may be leaking at any point in the process.
it doesn't work at scale.
LN is not a privacy layer.
its true what you are describing is better than doing nothing.
but its more work
and worse privacy
than you know,
just using #monero
LN is not a privacy layer.


Step 1. Install @Wasabi Wallet , send some bitcoin to the wallet, and coinjoin three 1M+ sats UXTOs.
Step 2. Install @ZEUS, and send those UXTOs to this wallet with Taproot address.
Step 3. Open three 1M+ un-announced(private) LN channels with each one of the UXTOs, with Simple Taproot enabled.
Step 4. When paying in LN, use MPP (payment is split into parts / uses multiple channels).
Step 5. When receiving in LN, use LSP wrapped invoices or Blinded paths.
You could also use multiple custodial non-KYC wallets like @Mysterious Hamster as decoys, or for quick swaps, or to manage liquidity of your node channels.
This whole process takes 5 minutes to setup. No one needs a shitcoin.
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The XMR alternative:
Step 1. Use Monero.
That's literally it. I'm a Bitcoin maximalist, but I believe we can learn a lot from Monero and it's community. Bitcoin privacy, as it stands, is nowhere near good enough to fully protect humanity's inherent right to privacy. Lightning is great, but it has its own problems. And in the end, anything beyond "just use it" is not good enough. We have a long way to go.
Step 2. Realize only drug junkies and anime girl profile picture users are using it.
Step 3. Swap in/out to BTC on some shady swap service because monero is a hot potato that loses value and you can't hold it for more than a month.
You're at one with the meme 🧘♀️




That definitely doesn't take 5 mins, you are relying on 1 confirmation to the wasabi wallet, 1 confirmation for the coinjoin, 1 confirmation to the zeus wallet, and then 3 confirmations for the channel opens to confirm lock_in state, that could take hours depending on your fee rate and network conditions
Plus that's not guaranteed good privacy, good privacy takes time like coinjoining multiple times in different intervals, and only later on opening channels where your coins are very far apart from the initial mixes. Even in Monero it is not advised to get coins from an exchange and immediately spend on the darkweb, you are better off churning or adding more hops in between. FCMPs++ fixes that, but we are yet to see LN's adoption for these high risk cases to compare
Wasabi 😂😂😂 Custodial wallets.
JFC
Just use Monero. No need for a bunch of steps. Work smarter, not harder.
