Yeah, I agree to some extent.... We need better mobile signers... It sucks that the only way to get that on Android is to get a custom app store But it's really not that hard to just generate an nPub/nSec pair and start talking. I mean it's probably a lower barrier to entry than just about any other social media system...?

don't worry, I also see problems with clients, but that is the detail, since there are few people who are doing it, clients do not have many resources or the necessary equipment to create something that is as stable as YouTube, Facebook or any company-funded page, so refining clients will be slow

They could... We could. ActivityPub folks did it with as little or even less resources than Nostr, and their protocol was just as bad in the early days, constantly self DDOising. Nostr is at what, 10k to 20k active daily users? Peaks of a few dozen kind 1 notes per second maybe? If the underlying architecture was sound this wouldn't be resource intensive and hard to serve at all. I could even argue that ActivityPub architecture is much more complex than a bunch of signed json payloads over websockets. If it can scale so does Nostr. The difference, other than time, is that tbey have a more mature and diverse community of FOSS devs there. Also, there isn't an overly dominant community there like the BTC folks on Nostr. I feel like a lot of folks here want it to remain a tiny BTC Twitter bubble.

We unfortunately have 200 other problems to solve besides NIP-47, starting with Nostr content and the attitude towards non-bitcoiners, but this is a big one for sure. I don’t think most folks are ready to move to totally ephemeral pubkeys, and reusing nsecs across experimental, increasingly vibecoded clients is just... dangerous... Nostr really needs to get the basics done right. As a community, we have wasted so many opportunities to scale Nostr already. I joined about a year and a half ago, during one of the many huge waves of people quitting Twitter. Since then we have lost at least three other opportunities to grow. The last one was the hype around @rabble’s deVine stuff. Every time one of the non-BTC Twitter experiments shows some promise, Nostr seems to crap its pants. We really, really need to get the basics right for Nostr to have any chance. I don’t think lightning will keep striking the same place over and over again, and we may not get many more opportunities to make Nostr scale.

We need better mobile OS's, because a custom app repository or sideloading shouldn't even be something anyone blinks at. A standard one is more eyebrow raising. Thank God for @GrapheneOS

Bluesky's Paul Frazee, on his experience with SSB and other purely community driven approaches to decentralised social networking. View quoted note →