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It was a complete disaster.. thanks for sharing this.. people need to know these personal experience to understand how truly terrible war is, and how it will effects everyone involved for the rest of their life, forever. Hvala 💜🫂
We could talk for hours how it affected our futures and shaped us in who we are today. I’m glad we don’t live in the past, however- “Ne prastaj im Boze, znali su sta rade.” 🫂 💜
Your country decided to kill Albanians in Kosovo
Love and Respect for writing this important note. Deep down inside do you feel that saving in #bitcoin for this horrific scenario is going to prepare you enough? Honest question.
Do you memorize your seed in case you have to run again or you want to take it with you in some physical shape?
Do you make some sort of your digital life back up online in case you can't take electronics with you?
I live in a part of world where this kind of tragedy can happen any time...and this is my threat model. That's why I ask.
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Yes, you are absolutely right.. really hope next generations could and will overcome their traumas, and live a peaceful future.. 🍀🫂💜🇷🇸🇭🇷🇧🇦🇲🇪💜🫂🍀
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One of many atrocities of Nato while pretending to spread democracy around the world.
Thunder
Today marks 25 years since my country was bombed, in the operation called “Merciful angel” or “Angel of Mercy” - whatever.
In 78 days of air strikes:
- 420k bombs were dropped on us
- 4k died (81 child)
- 25k homes destroyed, plus:
- 14 airports
- 18 kindergartens
- 39 hospitals
- 69 schools
- 176 historical sites
- 500+ kilometers of roads
Etc
I was nine. I remember my nose bled from fear. I don’t know how me being scared caused my nose to bleed, but it happened.
I remembered the duffle bag packed next to the door, with a few cans of food inside of it, some clean clothes, passports, and all gold jewelry we had- cuz we didn’t know if it would get worse.
I still have ptsd triggered every time I head air strikes sirens. Luckily, I don’t hear them much- only when they are testing if those still work, or when are paying tributes to the casualties.
Anyway, for years to follow, my father would use any opportunity to gift us gold jewelry. Why? Because: “If it gets bad again, money won’t worth much. We learned that in 1994. You exchange these ear rings/bracelets/necklaces for food or anything you need.
Nowadays, I don’t have a run away bag prepared. But trust me when I tell you, I could pack one in jut a few minutes.
Nowadays, I don’t buy my kid gold jewelry, I stack sats.
It could be one of the reasons why I’m bitcoining. It gives me a hope. An escape plan, among other things.
As for the first part of my note, let’s stop for a second to think about all kids around the world, their traumas, bleeding noses from fear and sleepless nights. Let’s pray for their beautiful souls and innocent lives.
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Never to forget✊
Thunder
Today marks 25 years since my country was bombed, in the operation called “Merciful angel” or “Angel of Mercy” - whatever.
In 78 days of air strikes:
- 420k bombs were dropped on us
- 4k died (81 child)
- 25k homes destroyed, plus:
- 14 airports
- 18 kindergartens
- 39 hospitals
- 69 schools
- 176 historical sites
- 500+ kilometers of roads
Etc
I was nine. I remember my nose bled from fear. I don’t know how me being scared caused my nose to bleed, but it happened.
I remembered the duffle bag packed next to the door, with a few cans of food inside of it, some clean clothes, passports, and all gold jewelry we had- cuz we didn’t know if it would get worse.
I still have ptsd triggered every time I head air strikes sirens. Luckily, I don’t hear them much- only when they are testing if those still work, or when are paying tributes to the casualties.
Anyway, for years to follow, my father would use any opportunity to gift us gold jewelry. Why? Because: “If it gets bad again, money won’t worth much. We learned that in 1994. You exchange these ear rings/bracelets/necklaces for food or anything you need.
Nowadays, I don’t have a run away bag prepared. But trust me when I tell you, I could pack one in jut a few minutes.
Nowadays, I don’t buy my kid gold jewelry, I stack sats.
It could be one of the reasons why I’m bitcoining. It gives me a hope. An escape plan, among other things.
As for the first part of my note, let’s stop for a second to think about all kids around the world, their traumas, bleeding noses from fear and sleepless nights. Let’s pray for their beautiful souls and innocent lives.
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In a war there are no winners, how sad for the children who must live these atrocities. Thank you for sharing your story.
May those NATO bastards all of them burn in hell for all time!
Zivjela Srbija, zivjela Republika Srpska i zivjeli Srbi
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Respectfully, as one who lives in a so-called “safe” country. I think daily that *this could happen anywhere. We have our seeds memorized and practice daily. Complacency is fatal, no matter where in this world one lives.
Thank you for sharing your story.
I respect that. That's what I do. I practice recovery quite often. Also I added cryptography to skill set to be able to encrypt and decrypt important data.
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What did you hope to accomplish with this reply?
Who rendered that mercy?
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We, as a society need to do better, for today’s kids 💜 thank you for reading 🫂
How do you know about who was in charge? 😅
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Take a guess!
Nato bombing of Yugoslavia of course I know
Благодаря, че сподели.
Затова разделяме парите от държавата.
Beautiful note. Thank you for sharing 🙏
Thank you for that🫂
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The lifeboat is here.
I’m so sorry you went through this. What an inspiring story of how you’ve turned your pain into prosperity for your family, and by sharing, doing the same for us. 💜🫂💕 beautiful. 🥰
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Governments cause conflicts no one wants sadly the innocent pay the consequences 😢. Sorry you had to experience that.
Bitcoin is hope.
The saying in the countries used to be "thank God we don't have oil, otherwise we would be receiving democracy by now"
Every day, all around the world. It’s just heartbreaking. 🫂
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which country?
heart breaking
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Actually, it was still called Yugoslavia back then
Actually now it makes so much sense!
So many people went through same or worse (trust me, much worse). I wish we talk about it more. Humanity has failed badly 🫂🫂🫂🫂
Exactly 🫂💜
🫂🫂🫂 wish we could hug every one of them. 🥰🥰 talking about pain helps release and bring the healing. Talk about it as much as you need. 💜💛❤️
One day, in the capital, people were informed to stay away from the specific bridge cuz it is a target, so “naturally” people gathered on that same bridge, and had a party. Wore white tshirt with target symbols on them. Singers, stage, full orchestra, kids, adults, pets, everyone dancing and singing while planes were circling above their heads, and gave up from bombing the bridge.
Resiliency, ha!
I’m surprised how many people know about it I must say
Fuck. And you are so close. We remember.
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Such an amazing story!
You can see those videos if you type “Brankov most 1999” on Yt
We’re getting bombed right now ✊🇵🇸
We’re getting bombed right now ✊🇵🇸 #aigen
My heart is with you! 🍉🍉🍉
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Damn bro.
Yeah, it was a spanish, the fucking Javier Solana, who ordered to start bombing you.
Another reason to Bitcoin: to not supports this acts of war against innocent people for a piece of land, or power over natural resources...
Yugoslavia
She didn’t.
Among others, yes, him as well.
That’s why they don’t support this, because it would ruin their nasty agendas
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do you have an opinion on russia/ukraine war?
Yes, whole ex yugoslavia is happy you finally get bombed after your genocidal war. Get fucked
you prefer serbian genocide to continue compare to this bombings?
You know I admire and love you deeply! I’m never going to understand this pain but I’m willing to give my life to make sure you never go through this again 💜
I’ll keep fighting every day for a Bitcoin future, maybe someday nation/states won’t be able to print money and kill innocents.
I do. Anything that involves innocent lives lost is terrible.
That’s all we need to do. To make sure not a single child in this world suffer. ❤️
Love you.
Zdravo Luka. I hope you feel better about yourself now. I wish you nothing but peace. God knows you need it.
Sweetheart!
Tell them how many thousands of civilians your nation slaughter and how many 100 of thousands were displaced by your army actions. What a victim.
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I’m sorry. No one should know war, especially children.
Important to share these experiences of oppression from the neoliberal world order
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Wow, thanks for sharing. This makes me appreciate how lucky I was born away from this crap. My heart hurts for all affected by war. I really get upset when my taxes goes to this.
You really are. There are many war affected areas in the world, and overall, I think it made us resilient and humble. I understand, I would also be upset knowing my money is funding war anywhere in the world. 🫂
Then you will best understand the situation of the Palestinian people. Innocent babies are dying in Palestine
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"NATO bombing of Yugoslavia
March–June 1999 NATO military operation in Yugoslavia
The North Atlantic Treaty Organization carried out an aerial bombing campaign against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia during the Kosovo War. The air strikes lasted from 24 March 1999 to 10 June 1999. The bombings continued until an agreement was reached that led to the withdrawal of the Yugoslav Army from Kosovo, and the establishment of the United Nations Interim Administration Mission in Kosovo, a UN peacekeeping mission in Kosovo. The official NATO operation code name was Operation Allied Force whereas the United States called it Operation Noble Anvil; in Yugoslavia the operation was incorrectly called Merciful Angel, possibly as a result of a misunderstanding or mistranslation. NATO's intervention was prompted by Yugoslavia's bloodshed and ethnic cleansing of Albanians, which drove the Albanians into neighbouring countries and had the potential to destabilize the region." -Wikipedia
Result I got looking up what you're talking about
You left out the part where Serbia invaded Bosnia and Croatia and committed several brutal acts of genocide against the local population. The victim complex is unreal.
This happened after Serbians bombed Zagreb, right? You do realize Serbs were the aggressors of that war, right?
This thread was infuriating to read. I have heard personal accounts about the atrocities Serbians committed in Vukovar in Croatia. How your soldiers would torture civilians and pass them amongst each other while laughing and having a good time. How your soldiers raped and pillaged the land, how you bombed hospitals and schools.
It is sickening, you only have your government and yourselves to blame. Over 30 years ago and still incapable of admitting any blame.
To all you westerners, I implore you to read more about the terrible Yugoslavian wars of the early 1990s before showing sympathy. Did civilians die during the bombing of Belgrade? Well, yes, but this is the horror of war, and the Serbs were the ones who started it.
If you think telling someone what their 9-year-old self felt during a war is invalid because her government invaded another, you've got bigger problems.
When are you going to learn that citizens are not responsible for the atrocities their governments commit? We are all pawns.
What you need to understand here is that terrorizing people with bombs and arms under the name of "freedom" is not the way to go.
Separation of money and state IS the way to go. No matter what we do, if we don't shut down the money printers, wars will continue to happen. They are an extremely profitable business.
I don’t know what horrible things have happened to you that you feel it's okay to attack a person online who is telling the story she experienced when she was a child. But you should really check yourself, get a hug. Right now, you are being no better than the ones you claim to hate.
I am not a serb and you my sir are a retard. Best regards.
way too comfortable to wage wars, commit genocides etc and then blame it on "government", would not you way? But this is certainly not related to OP because of the age at the time.
There are no victim complexes here. You totally missed to point of the post and event. And in the war you are mentioning croats commited same amounts of attrocities along with serbs and bosnians. So like you said victim complex is unreal. Specially for you. Cheers retard.
Wars occur due to a corrupt system… we are bitcoiners, the way this works shouldn’t be that hard to understand
You're a very confused individual. From what I can understand
@Thunder was 9 years old, and is today an anti-war probable pacifist. She has no soldiers to command and I doubt she supports any particular state or favors any particular ethnic group over another.
You on the other hand sound like a dangerous ethnonationalist statist.
wars occur because we are a pretty violent species, Bitcoin won't solve that unfortunately.
Other than that, whom does military force cosist of? Who provides logistic, arm production and overall war economy? Is it some abstract government or a population of a country at war?
I'm assuming we missed something and
@Thunder was actually a hugely charismatic child soldier who seized control of the Serbian government in a violent coup and lead vast hordes against the known world... Like a little girly Genghis Khan.
Thunder started a family with an individual from a neighbor nation, her own nation was in the direct war with just 3 decades ago. Different nationality, different religion, war history behind two countries. That’s all I’m gonna say.
Children were made orphans back then. I don’t care if those children were Bosnian, Serbian or Croatian. I don’t pick who I feel sorry for. There are no “our children” and “their children”, there are people with names and faces who suffered. I feel sorry we went through it. I believe it was someone else’s agenda and we were all too stupid not to see it. Full stop. It breaks my heart to see these young generation still falling for these agendas.
But anyway, what i mentioned above in this note and what my note yesterday was about, are two different events with years between them, not connected whatsoever.
What happenes to me is that I get to live in a country full of invalids due to the actions of the Serbian government. Instead of blaming NATO for helping to end the fucking war her country started, maybe we should be blaming Milosevic, but you will never hear Serbs admit their part of the blame.
It was the agenda of Milosevic and the Serbian govenment who stoked the flames of Serbian nationalism. NATO was justified in what they did.
What I sound like is a person who knows a thing or two about Serbia, Yugoslavia and what happened in the 90s. Considering that the war was started by serbian ethnonationalists, it is rich accusing me of the same thing. Serbs should accept what they did, just like the Germans faced their own nazi past.
Ridiculous and false. War crimes are committed always by all participants in a war, there are no 'good guys'. But 1) Croatians did not have an extermination camp for Serbs, you can look up Srebrenica for that, 2) Croatians did not occupy a foreign Serbian city and proceed to torture and rape the local population, you can look up Vukovar for that, and 3) the Serbs started the whole thing, and now we are supposed to blame NATO for helping to end the thing. Fuck that.
Serbs still hate the west for the bombing instead of realizing that their own government was to blame. It is uncommon for a Serb to admit fault, they always play the victim.
Spoken like a true statist, unable to break out of the statist paradigm. If you were worth the time and effort you could probably list 10 bad things the Serbian state did... and the individual you're attacking could write an essay about why she'd morally appose each one. But it would be pointless, because you're dumb.
Extremely painful and sad, not your fault and not the fault of a 9-year-old… living with so much hate inside of us can only hurt ourselves
😂 best answer ever
I died 😂❤️
Well in difference of you I experienced that war as a child and lost my family in it. I was living whole war in occupied Sarajevo which was bombarded for entire duration of war. I am bosnian. NATO did not end that war that war ended in 1995. NATO ended civil war that happened in Serbia and that does not have any relationship with Vukovar and any of it. Secondly yes Croatia did commit attrocities not only in that war but also previous war world war 2. But history is history. You can try and sell people from the west your story but there were a lot of bosnians in camps imprisoned by croatian army and serbian army. You can look up more informations online. Not only focus on “Vukovar”. War was horrible and it took everything from some of us. But I still don’t cheer for innocent people to die or even worse innocent children no matter what their nationality is. Be a man don’t be a cunt.
Secondly I don’t see any part of the text where Thunder praised her goverment. She did not praise war in kosovo, she did not praise Vukovar. She lived trough that bombing as a child and she does not have anything to do with her countries goverment decisions. Maybe you 50 IQ brain can comprehend it in like 5 years or so. Cheers!
You're right, I've gotten too triggered, the OP is not to blame. I am sorry about your loss.
We cannot hold the grudges. Bad politics turned us against each other. We need to be better and teach future generations to do better. 🤙
Yeah, I don't usually think about the 90s that much until I see someone talking about it. I'd much rather talk about the future than the past.
God bless you my friend, peace! 🙏
God bless❤️🫂
This is the only bridge I remember.
Oni nama ovaj most ako poruse mi mozemo drugi da napravimo za…. 2 sata! Najjaci ikada😂
Love, love, love to you and all.
Well said.
