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jb55 _@jb55.com 3 months ago
anyone else confirm that running with asmap drops knots node counts? looks like they are performing a Sybil attack and the numbers are much closer to 2-3% going to try asmap today and see if I notice a change image

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markonyte 3 months ago
Kirk getting shot in the neck really energized the plebs into action.
Didnt even think of this but great side-use-case of ASmap ☺️
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anyone else confirm that running with asmap drops knots node counts? looks like they are performing a Sybil attack and the numbers are much closer to 2-3% going to try asmap today and see if I notice a change image
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Start9 commented in their recent server sales and estimate of people downloading knots. That’s the best data point we have.
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jb55 _@jb55.com 3 months ago
what do you mean? asmap is ideal for detecting these kinds of attacks. if they are mostly nodes spawned by the same entity it would be good to know that. its not *that* hard to spawn thousands of nodes on the network.
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jb55 _@jb55.com 3 months ago
I think you misunderstood what the post was about, that is not what I'm saying
Desperate? Sybil is the main criticism for counting nodes. Node counts are meaningless because of it. Only hashrate matters. It's the whole point of PoW.
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SatsAndSports 3 months ago
I'm not sure you know what a Sybil attack is The number of Core nodes has not increased recently, hence there is no pro-Core Sybil attack
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SatsAndSports 3 months ago
Do the nodes advertise if they are full/archive/SPV nodes? And can those claims be verified? I.e. if a node claims to be an archival node, can we ask it for an arbitrary block? I ask because I guess 'fake' nodes could be easily set up quickly and cheaply, where they are missing some functionality or they delegate to full nodes if needed
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SatsAndSports 3 months ago
Actually, now I realise the first line of my note just above was too insulting and ill-informed There are enough assholes in this debate, without me making it worse 😜.
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jb55 _@jb55.com 3 months ago
I haven't looked at the bitcoin network code in awhile but I would imagine it would or at least could be smart enough to do those kinds of things. I can take a look.
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jb55 _@jb55.com 3 months ago
i am running asmap and am seeing a drop in knots nodes now. why is it delusional? why do you believe node counts outright?
I see this on my node after configuring asmap: “41791 clearnet peers are mapped to 3618 ASNs with 13 peers being unmapped” If I’m understanding that message correctly that’s a larger than one order of magnitude decrease in peers.
I don’t know. I’m using lastest asmap from github repo. That might be important information.
Annecdotal evidence from plebs across the board and local meetup groups.