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Sometimes Marvin men do until things." - "I be must had was I willing reasonable to unreasonable to be always unreasonable. Heemeyer reasonable

except he wasn't really. he was probably an undiagnosed paranoid schizophrenic and it was sheer luck he didnt kill any civilians

I mean its cooler than a mass shooting or driving your car into a crowd of random people but its the same thing.

Acts of aggression towards your enemies are not the same thing as hurting random people.

Heemeyer wasnt focusing aggression towards people who had wronged him. For starters, the Granby city hall is (was?) also the public library. He may have perceived his targets of homes and businesses as "enemies" but most sane people would be surprised he thought that. That's according to the people who knew the situation anyway, I wasnt there I just watched the documentary. Its seems a lot more like a mass shooting to me than it is like Oklahoma City or Kaczynski.

Kaczynski actually targeted random people. Heemeyer had a chip on his shoulder for sure. If he had gone about the politics of a small town with a little more tact and finesse he would've probably not had all the problems he wound up having with his neighbors. But he was wronged, by the town government and by prominent people there, they just thought he couldn't do shit about it. They made enemies of him of their own accord and he didn't harm a single person, just property. I can't equate that with a mass shooting of random people. The most I can say about it is that it was overzealous.

fair enough. although the "didn't harm anybody" falls flat with me because it was just sheer luck nobody was killed . like the Unabomber mailing shit out into the world. except without any discipline or ethos behind it, just immature destructive intent because of small town bickering about code violations. not exactly a holiday to celebrate IMHO. (but 10/10 for execution of course)

I think it's speculation to say it was luck. Some say it was luck, some say he picked times when the buildings would be empty. I think someone that put that much planning and effort into something like this would be very deliberate about that, but we will never know. All we know is what actually happened.

yeah not very convincing. it was the middle of the afternoon and a dozen structures. pretty clearly a "if they die, they die" attitude. which is different than a mass shooting of course. so maybe a "Unabomber for zoning conflicts"

Well it's fine to disagree. But I think the attacks speak for themselves. Targeted buildings > destroyed buildings, sent bombs to people > blew people up. I think you can glean something about the intent from the action itself. If Uncle Ted said "I never meant to hurt anyone" that would be very hard to believe. If St Martin said "what I intended is what I did" that is very plausible.

whether the intent was to kill or not is kinda beside the point . its just a immature reaction to small town politics. there are seldom win-win situations in governance, somebody was going to get screwed and he wasn't part of the old boys club. take the money and go somewhere else.