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The former president was literally a WWE regular and and reality TV star 😂😂😂😂😂
4 years ago there was a civilian president and Israel/Ukraine were peaceful.
We have to be very deliberate in our next few steps if the machine is going to be scaled down peacefully.
Cynical libertarianism is a losing strategy
The side that wants something will always prevail against the side that wants to be left alone.
I cannot for the life of me remember the name… but the entire thing reminded me of the movie where the news reporter (Anderson Cooper?) finishes the segment and unzips his face. Men in Black? Truman show?
Either way- clown show all the way around. Journos aren’t real people and propaganda works.
Being left alone is something to be had. Also, who said libertarians want to be left alone. They just don't want to be forced to do shit. This is like people who say anti-interventionists are isolationists. As if the only thing two places can exchange is bombs. Gtfo of here.
“Hey man, if you don’t vote then you have no right to complain about the government for the next 4 years!”
Mission impossible
We watch it for the memes not the substance
Leave me alone = don’t force me to do something
Force me to do something = me not being left alone.
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Preach brother!
“It’s literally reality tv” <- that’s why. People love reality tv (for some reason🤷) and can’t tell the difference between that and politics anymore. With today’s politicians, it’s hard to blame them…
Lol, there are things one must do in this world for one's own survival. Once again, it is your assertion that Libertarians want to be left alone. Either way, "leave me alone" was the warning not an impossibility.
For the simple ones: I say "leave me alone." You say "I'm not going to leave you alone." I defend myself and my property from you. My wants are fulfilled. Yours are not. You think every Libertarian is a loner, you are incorrect.
There’s a reason both the left and the establishment right hate Trump.
If one doesn’t think the coattails of a presidential election matter, I’ll just say this: I live in Michigan under a Democratic Tyrant. I went to Indiana 2-3 times a week for some freedom, and drove to Florida 5X’s for freedom (because I would not wear their fucking slave mask to fly) during the tyranny.
Let’s pick the best choice we have and hopefully buy some time before the socialists cram a CBDC down our throats.
Elections do matter - one need only look at El Salvador.
You can't be left alone in a world that is round and inhabited by billions of fellow human. What you're talking about is isolation, you can go to a cave and try to reach enlightenment, otherwise you're forced to participate by social design.
Agreed that it's very cringe... and feels designed to divide and conquer.
Ukraine has been at war since 2014. Please pay more attention to world history of you want to share your opinion.
Sigh, you're missing a point: he's a god sent drain the swamp maga hero aka George Washington and the greatest leader off all times, ever and forever and he is a legend and God save orange headed human! /s
LOLOLOL, Can no one read? What part of "Libertarians don't want to be left alone" don't you understand? Communities and social clubs are a big part of securing liberty for oneself, family, and friends. Again you all sound like the type to say to a non intervebtionist that they are isolationists because you can't fathom humans interacting without killing each other. Sad people.
Civil war since the State dept backed violent 2014 coup installed extremists in gov
Ok but no you are right there’s NO DIFFERENCE in the conflict 2018 vs 2024 totally
Retard
These are your personal logical conclusions that might not be correct.
You're not a European hence I understand your ignorance and accept opinion dictated by your political party. War in Ukraine started in 2014 by a hostile takeover of Crimea by Russia and their attempt to take the Donbass region under control that kicked off high potential military actions.
Please spend more time educating yourself rather than posting uneducated conspiracies, anon.
Also, present yourself, why are you hiding behind an anonymous avatar?
Debating is a 'skillset' with questionable real world utility anyway. For example, successful enteprenuers don't utilise debate to achieve their success/customers.
It can be seen as the antithesis of negotiating - which is the real world skill of generating value for value (win-win) outcomes.
Debate can also be viewed as the antithesis of self-guided study and self-guided critical thinking.
Might not be correct? They are literal quotes and deductive reasoning. What do you even mean?
"Again you all sounds like a type" was what I commented on. I wish there was a way to quote in nostr
This is why we stack sats. I don’t care what the talking heads of the parties say because in the end it doesn’t really matter. $35 trillion and counting. They have nothing to say on this issue because they know the dollar is fucked.
I have to confess I watched 20 seconds and fell into a depressive madness wherein their faces merged and the Golem's true nature revealed itself. Horns blew, the walls cried, and suddent I knew that hideous truth: I should watch Mentalist and eat stew with my wife instead.
Absolutely. Delusional checkers dressed as chess. Stack on!
It isn’t cynical libertarianism, it’s pragmatism and understanding the cost of using energy.
It costs 100x as much to spend your days, time, energy, and mind focused on politics, while the difference in the outcome is indistinguishable regarding who wins the election when looking at basically any meaningful stats or outcomes. Debt is going to explode upward, doesn’t matter who’s in office. Military complex will grow further. Govt will get bigger. Etc etc
Yet just a small amount of energy and time spent on decentralized protocols, on adopting and spreading understanding of sound money, or using a social network that cannot be censored, or spreading the signal and helping others to stop wasting time on lost causes that black hole our precious time and money.
You call it cynicism likely because you frame the world with politics at its center. You think I’m ignoring reality
I call it pragmatism because I realize politics is a game show designed to trick you into thinking it’s the center of the world. I actually live in reality, while you play reality TV.
I say this with respect, I think we have very different ideas as to what really moves the world. I’m not defeatist, I think putting politics at the center of everything happens in the mind of someone already totally defeated.
Not if they can’t afford it
Everyone has forgotten that a senile man with the vocabulary of a second grader is supposedly in charge
Well said. I think there’s some value in the debates, as they affect public discourse a bit (and entertainment), but it’s more and more clear that working within the system is a lost cause. I have to remind myself frequently of this as I’m, like many, easily caught up in the BS and emotion of the show
I think that that statement could probably be amended to “Elections in the USA don’t matter right NOW“ El Salvador had reached rock-bottom, and the population was absolutely desperate for a solution. The USA has a long way to fall before people will be ready to come back together and vote for a real leader.
Appreciate the thoughtful response. A few thoughts:
Generally agree with your assessment of where we are headed if nothing changes. Agree that a small amount of time spent on decentralized and censorship resistant protocols like bitcoin and nostr provides resilience in an increasingly fragile world.
However, in the OP you mentioned there’s no reason to pay attention to say the debate because it doesn’t matter sighting the fact that the sitting president isn’t all there and ‘nothings changed.’ That’s the point I’m trying to make - things should change. Certain parts of public life are not acceptable in my opinion.
Generally I want less war, more reasonableness. It’s my right to inform myself about who may best achieve those objectives.
Also. The word politics is rooted in the Latin ‘politi’ meaning public. It’s just all the things we do together. It’s how define how best to get along with one another and most importantly, it is the alternative to war. And I agree that politics is not my ultimate source of my hope - that is foolish and will result in despair because politicians (like all of us) are selfish and flawed.
The only point I meant to make is that resignation from politics entirely yields ground to whoever desires that power. And some power seekers are in fact worse than others. Therefore we should seek to empower those who would wield their authority well (even if it is the lesser of two evils which is often the case). All the while we should (as you said) become antifragile, wise, resilient through self sovereign censorship resistant protocols.
There was a lot better in the US under Trump.
Better economy.
Best unemployment rates for minorities.
Much less inflation.
It’s amazing to me that he brought the leader of a nuclear power, basically 23 million population slave state (NK) to the table w S. Korea and the press ignored it.
That to me was a monumental step in the right direction.
I firmly believe had he been in office the Ukrainian Russian war does not happen. And that’s hundreds of thousands of young men and women - some barely older than boys and girls - that still have their hands, legs, lives.
He has promised to free Ross.
Will Harris?
He would pardon the innocent people from January 6th. Will Harris?
He is starting to get bitcoin and has said he will not allow a CBDC. And we’ve all seen many of the democrats railing against bitcoin, and we watch other leftists around the world lean toward a CBDC.
We watch and actually see the left yearning to control freedom of speech. Which is terrifying.
(They used to champion it).
Today’s right is far, far better in that regard.
Trump’s not perfect, but he’s much, much better than the alternative, and lastly, I’m for buying time.
Bread and Circus
If voting didn't matter, Trump wouldn't have won on the last election. Voting matters and this election is very decisive for the future of America and the world. Don't let the communists win of you'll go down the same path Brazil is right now.
Exactly. Look at my country, Brazil. We're screwed under a narco-dictatorship. Trump is the only way to go.
I agree with what you wrote. I said “elections” don’t matter, not “the president” doesn’t matter. Meaning I definitely think Trump is the better choice, but I don’t know if they will let him come to power. I’m pretty sure that last time was an error on their part, and they really didn’t expect Trump to win. The president is selected, not elected for all intents and purposes. They’ve already tried to kill him twice, and I’m sure have other tricks in the works. Hopefully not successful ones.
Things were even better without kikes being imported in 1893
1. No central bank
2. No income tax
3. No sluts and divorce rate
4. No fag's
5. No niggers running wild
6. No niggers ans sand niggers and other shitholers flooding America
6a. No WW 1
6b. No WW2
7. No chicks voting
8. No USS Liberty
9. No Israel
10. No Huey Long assassination
11. No JFK assassination
12. No lavonr affair
13. No 9/11
14. No Korean wat
15. No Vietnam war
16. No gulf wars
All of this shit and more was orchestrated by kikes
wrong. My vote cancels out some blue haired woke asshole's vote.
It matters
YOUR WRONG BUDDY SORRY
Kk
“Your vote doesn’t matter” lets debate on your podcast
No
Let’s debate on your show
Exactly
You coming here acting and inviting yourself on my show is a really fast way to never get there and to get muted. No idea who you are dude, we’ve never met, the answer is no.
Muted indefinitely
“YOUR VOTE DOESNT MATTER” YOU SOUND SMART TO AN IDIOT
COULD GIVE 2 FUCKS I NEVER LISTENED TO YOUR SHOW CUPCAKE. YOU ARE INCORRECT ATLEAST HAVE THE BALLS TO DEFEND YOUR STANCE..YOU WONT..BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU ARE WRONG. YOU SOUND LIKE A POSH YUPPY LIBERAL KID “YOUR VOTE DOESNT MATTER” STFU
Strong argument, well reasoned.
@Guy Swann,
@Deleted Account Why argue with fiat world problems?... You both seem to be bitcoiners, you should be on the same side. Just stack sats and stay humble. Yall forgot this extremely meaningfull sentence?
No debate needed, bitcoin will win and wathever needs to happen should happen, and will happen.
I'm not saying no actions is needed. But I believe mother nature will send us in the direction that is best for all of us.
You feel like casting a vote is good? Vote!
You think voting is pointless? Don't vote!
#stayhumble
#stacksats
#bitcoin
All I did was ask for a debate and the guy goes and pisses on himself it’s all good
Exactly
JD Vance emitted Presidential/Statesman like vibes. Tim Walz emitted creepy, jumpy grandpa vibes.
I appreciate trying to offer an olive branch here but this wasn’t about voting. I didn’t care whether he voted or not, and I’m happy to hear someone take on why voting does matter. Could even be a fun show with someone who isn’t a shithead. I even liked some half decent responses in the thread.
So thanks for trying, but voting wasn’t relevant to the problem, it was just about him being a tool.
*You're
Haha touche’
I see
Like I said he’s a posh yuppy
The USA has the illusion of a democracy/republic. In the past, the people running the country allow Presidents who were down with the One World Order to take the oath of office. But then came along Donald Trump and they did everything they could to destroy him. These Presidents do not actually run the country and more recently have been getting their play book from (Obama) Davos. While Trump is not a great leader he represents a better outcome for American. With Kamala, we get reduced freedoms, universal income, 15 minute cities, their Great Reset and never ending wars.
