The FI in FIRE is the important part
I don't really think a man would be that happy to never work again
Probably a better goal is
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That's my goal. Retirement in my mind is not needing to work for an income to sustain my life. But that doesn't mean I won't do anything. It doesn't even mean I won't earn an income. It'll just be completely my choice.
Exactly. I want to work, volunteer - live - for what is good and worthwhile, not because I need to.
Hopefully on a farm with tasty critters
Tolkienβs best line.


As someone who has been laid off since September of 25. First couple months were great and enjoyable as I had been doing 7 days a week for months before the store closed. So I needed the time off. But by the new year I was itching to be productive again..
Hopefully starting an electrician apprenticeship in July π€
I've felt like a bum the last few months.
I've never understood the word retirement. I spend more time on unpaid work than paid anyway, and always have. A privilege for sure, but also the reason I'll never be able to afford to actually retire.
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Yup
I did RE and it was really the best part.
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in fact, we need to keep ourselves busy, otherwise we go crazy...
Imagine a book editor/publisher. What does their "retirement" look like? Never reading (or writing) a book ever again?
Or a retired first responder; are they just done with rendering any kind of aid in any context?
Retirement is a clunky concept that doesn't map well to the reality of vocational fulfillment.
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for me the difference is that I'm no longer bound by supply&demand.
I can do things nobody but me really wants/demand.