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I recommend you rent a cloud Linux server and install a VPN server by yourself. Even better if you can place such a server somewhere connected to some open wifi.

Choose one that allows you to pay in a privacy respecting currency like monero (XMR). Mullvad and iVPN come to mind as the most popular monero friendly VPNs. Mullvad a bit more popular compared to iVPN. This minimizes the trust you place in the VPNs no logs policy.

ProtonVPN is nice. Heard lots of good things about Mullvad as well. Wouldn't touch any of the widely influencer advertised ones.

**I recommend:** nostr:nprofile1qqsdru78zcu6uwa6zlludjx7k87m8ft9q6e5jgsn6qe49rxzj9frwpqpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0wd68ytnsw43qdgkgx7 Private payments, private registration, good service and accept Bitcoin for approximately a decade. **I do not recommend:** those VPN that do not allow you to be anonymous and private when hiring their services.

I don't recommend any because I don't want to be blamed if they do shady shit I suggest airvpn because they have port forwarding I recommend avoiding any VPN without port forwarding because they're anti-decentralization glowies (often marketing themselves as freedom or privacy advocates despite shutting down port forwarding to hinder BitTorrent users)

ProtonVPN and Mullvad are both blatant honeypots, they don't even have port forwarding

Idk why you'd trust a VPN's privacy, but picking one without port forwarding is insane, it's blatantly a honeypot

Pretty sure those are both blatant honeypots with no port forwarding

Based

Yeah there are some that even stop sip ports

For Android or Graphene OS, there's an app called Orbot that lets you run the traffic from certain apps or your whole phone through Tor. Free and possibly better than a VPN. Mullvad lets you pay in BTC.

Y’all have given me much to think about. Thank you.

ok which one you recommend?

This npub's suggestion is probably better than mine nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpt7u2llmxjw78vzyc5rfpt0meggy73lpfkhwmadycpfmjh25htanqyg8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnddakj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezucnpdejz7qpqvqzns3fsd0vtywj5xyclutrxemlmym80c0j9xlj28w0cr3e9vnvskl8zdw

I fear Proton AG is new new Crypto AG, yes. There were rumors that at least one of the alternative mail hosters is a honeypot and in 2023 it was alleged to be Tuta (when they were named Tutanota). Sus how they rebranded shortly after: https://news.itsfoss.com/tutanota-rebranding/ I guess we'll know in maybe 10+ years. My current threat model aligns with using Proton.