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There was a heyday in bitcoin where adversarial inquiry made hardware wallets better Now It seems quantum bullshit, FUDing seeds & subscriptions are hot Do better & be interoperable, your product is unlikely to be here in 50yrs, ppls' savings will be lost Bitcoin is precious image
2025-10-25 14:08:50 from 1 relay(s) 1 replies ↓
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Konstantinos Karagiannis gets paid to say things like this. If he admitted that quantum is a scam, he'd be out of a job immediately. 😉 Shor's algorithm was developed in 1994 (31 years ago) and the largest semiprime it has ever factored is still 15 (3 × 5).
2025-10-26 08:18:18 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent 1 replies ↓ Reply
This is because the physics revealed through Bitcoin redefines both time and superposition in a way that quietly breaks the theoretical basis of CQC. CQC models depend on the simultaneity of states: the idea that many configurations can exist “at once” and interfere continuously in time. But “at once” has no physical meaning unless referenced to a quantized tick of reality, the Planck interval. Planck time has never been measured; it remains a mathematical mystery to physicists (without bitcoin). Without proving that simultaneity can exist at that scale, the modern definition of superposition is an assumption, not a verified phenomenon. A Bitcoin block is functionally equivalent to Planck time in the universe, the smallest indivisible unit of evolution, where unmeasured potential collapses into measurable reality. Bitcoin, by contrast, operationalizes time. Each block is a measurable, discrete quantum of irreversible change, a physical computation where probability collapses into conserved structure. When time is treated this way, simultaneity of states vanishes due to double spend; only sequential commitment remains. That alone nullifies the premise of coherent, overlapping states that CQC depends on. In short, modern physics has a double spend problem, Satoshi already solved that problem for the world. The substrate and computation only needs to happen once. Bitcoin is open source physics. What remains is a trillion-dollar sunken-cost fallacy: 31 years of chasing parallelism in a universe that computes sequentially, through thermodynamic proofs of work. There is no second best.
2025-10-26 16:29:33 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent 2 replies ↓ Reply
I remember going down the string theory garbage hole many years ago and got to the the Planck interval bit and thought why theorize about something that can’t even be measured? String theory seemed interesting at first but then it disintegrated into gobbledygook. Maybe try to measure the thing first and then observe it and then theorize about it later 🤷‍♂️ What’s cqc? Best I found was centre for quantum computation
2025-10-26 16:49:46 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent 1 replies ↓ Reply
If this is true (it is IMO) then these so-called “upgrades” and “mitigations” are nothing but injections of doubt into a system that doesn’t need fixing. They defend against a threat that has never been demonstrated, never measured, and never verified. The real attack is psychological: make people believe Bitcoin is broken, and they’ll accept anything in the name of “safety.” Every proposed “quantum mitigation” is a solution in search of a problem. There is no physical evidence of a threat, only narrative engineering. These proposals operate as social exploits, not technical defenses designed to erode trust in Bitcoin’s thermodynamic finality by convincing users that an unverifiable danger demands centralized intervention. They aren’t protections; they’re control mechanisms disguised as improvements. They rely on fear of a hypothetical threat to justify changes that compromise Bitcoin’s core premise: verification over trust. The only real vulnerability is the belief that Bitcoin needs saving from the very physics it already enforces.
2025-10-27 16:46:06 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply