#nostr lasts for ever ๐ค so thatโs nice
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i am her ๐ญ
Nostr lasts for eve ๐ fixed it for ya.
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guess i owe you banana bread
Umm. I might be wrong, but isn't it literally the other way round? The older a note gets, the less insentive a relay has to keep it
Oh no ๐ฎ what is the purpose of this sacred gift ?
because nostr is now for โeveโ ๐
why? itโs not syncโing with your flans innit?
i promise you itโs not candle
Gotta stay on my toes here ๐ for someone who only offers me violence a banana bread is highly sus turn of events ๐
Sure as a network effect if you donโt self host weโd expect only important content to survive. But one cannot kill the concept that is Nostr ๐ ๐ค
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well, you are right to do that
call it a peace offering ๐๐ค
it only lasts about 5 minutes so better eat that candle quickly
I have my fun on nostr but I think ultimately it's doomed to fail. I believe it will either go the email way (a handful of big tech node operators giving away the expensive parts for free while classifying all small ones as spam), or require people to set up relays to maintain ecosystem health which means people will not use it.
The one true form of decentralization is p2p. Not relays, not federation
Freakinโ knew it would be candle ๐ too suspicious ๐ค the element of surprise is gone ๐
mr sync, some ancient biblical guy called, adam would tell you to never trust any woman named, eve ๐๐
jusssayin
It depends on how / if an ecosystem expands. A relay isnโt the most complicated thing to setup so there is still hope ๐. Iโm Starting to sound like โThe year of Linux on desktop 2026 โ ๐ I do agree with the p2p argument but it would still be cool if we had some kind of shared semi persistent data store ( like Nostr ) aside the p2p to work with, cause no matter how i twist or turn it, at the end someone will be footing some server bill somewhere. โ๏ธ
Ah that book had so many bad reviews I skipped it ๐


yes i think so
Absolutely my favourite place
agreed hard on the p2p point.
...but i also think that p2p is nostr's far future. every npub becomes nearly synonymous with a relay/personal server; plus a mesh or p2p layer for the connectivity and network/discoverability bit
well said, and I agree basically ๐ค๐
Nostr fails so long as its growth is tied to โcustodialโ business models. When non-custody (of identity and reputation) is proven profitable and accessible, tech companies will actually work harder to preserve this. Sustainable decentralization of infrastructure emerges as a byproduct of intrinsically motivated stakeholders, not as its own altruistic outcome.
Nost4 is leading this effort to make non-custody a profitable business model.


Nostr4
Nostr 4 Social Apps ยท Nostr4
The business case for Nostr: what custody costs a social app, and what the protocol hands back.
It's been a long week and I cannot understand what you said. Can you dumb it down a little?