Bro it’s SUPER simple.
If you don’t get why it’s better to buy private money with an unverifiable supply and no supply limit that requires a registered legal mailing address and your linked government name to prove custody of privacy tokens in case you get scammed mailing cash to get the tokens then I don’t have that much more time to convince you…. Just a few more lengthy paragraphs of insane mental gymnastics 😂😂
Monero is such a shitcoin and shitshow.
Saifedean is completely right, the demand for privacy money will never be large. 99.9% of transactions do not require privacy. There will never be demand at scale for monero which renders its “killer” feature effectively useless. The trade offs monero has to get privacy are a huge detriment.
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It's actually insane how much cope monero bros carry. They want to be different so bad. They hate bitcoiners because they hate being happy lmao. I really think that's what it is. Monero bros are the most unhappy and insufferable people on nostr. Bitcoiners are different. Most bitcoiners were doomers that found hope. They are finally happy now. But being happy is so strange and unfamiliar for monero bros. "Why is everyone happy? Something must be wrong. It must be a psyop. The government is stacking it so it must be captured." They try so hard to giga brain. They overthink and fool themselves into buying inferior money. For what? Privacy? I love privacy but why not just practice privacy with the superior money that will win in the end? Buy non kyc, use lightning, and do coinjoins when necessary. It's not that hard. It's certainly easier than all this shit with mailing addresses and the post office. And monero bros can't even prove that monero provides better privacy than lightning. How depressing is that? Lightning isn't even that good right now and you can't even prove that monero is more private than a second layer bitcoin solution? Lightning still has room to improve too. Monero bros need to practice being more humble.
>99.9% of transactions do not require privacy
cuck
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STFU man
your technical chops are shit
Hope dies in the end, but it dies.
And I don't hate bitcoiners, why would I. Some of my closest friends are bitcoiners, what ever the meaning of "bitcoiners" is.
I've had these for a while.
Seems a good moment to post 😁


Being different? I just explained to you that p2p cash trades started with Bitcoin and Retoswap itself is a Monero focused for of the Bitcoin focused Bisq. I gave all the credit to Bitcoin for starting that system because all the credit goes to Bitcoin.
Demand for privacy money was near 100% before transaction methods like cheques and credit cards. For all history before that transactions were completed with cash or coins. Only I'm the last 50 years have we been subjected to surveilled money and only in the past 15 have we been subjected to publically surveilled money with Bitcoin.
Also the supply is verifiable through proof of contradiction in which we can use cryptography to prove the lack of an inflation bug which, by contradiction, proves the supply is limited as programmed
You don't need to have a mailing address or name to prove custody of the coins. Registered mail provides more evidence in the case of attempted scam when trying to buy monero with cash. That risk is identical on Bisq when buying Bitcoin with cash. You can also use uninsured mail for more privacy but incur risk.
You can also use Zelle or another KYC payment app to buy Monero which is a safe and quick method but less private than registered mail. Same goes for Bitcoin on Bisq.
You can also buy Monero from a KYC exchange like Kraken, the advantage of that over Bitcoin is that after you withdraw your Monero is KYC free unlike Bitcoin. With Bitcoin you'll need to swap to self-custodial Lightning or use a mixer to break the link.
How do you buy your Bitcoin? KYC exchange? Cash without a return address on Bisq? Do you coinjoin your UTXOs?
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Not sure what any of that has to do specifically with Monero. The problem is obviously coming from the cash/physical side of things. Applies just as much to trading Bitcoin for cash too. Cash-by-mail is the most popular fiat payment method on Bisq and Reto for a reason. If everyone was constantly getting scammed no one would do it.
You can make it as private/anonymous/risky as you want depending what side of the trade you're on. You don't need a name or return address if you are sending cash by mail. There are multiple ways to mitigate risk (unnocuously leave marks inside the package and record everything in one go for the arbitrator in case of a dispute) but it's always going to be there to some degree like anything else. It's the receiver who is going to have more of a problem with privacy. If all they care about is privacy from the counterparty they can just use a PO Box.
If you do an in-person trade neither party needs to know anything about the other and no arbitrator required.
Bitcoiners are always talking about how important large anonymity sets are. Billions of letters and packages go through the postal system every year. Post offices are unwittingly the largest drug dealers in the world. If people were constantly getting busted for it that wouldn't be true.