No one knows if quantum computers are even possible right now

If I had to guess I’d say it never happens.

Same

The answer to the question lies in the physics of Bitcoin.

What does the physics of bitcoin have to do with breaking encryption?

Quantum computing only threatens cryptography if the standard model of superposition is physically true. The model only makes sense if time is fundamentally continuous and if states can meaningfully “exist at once” in multiple configurations. That assumption has never been measured, never been defined, and has never been grounded in any physical observation. No one has actually proved the modern definition of superposition at the scale of Planck Time. Bitcoin quietly destroys the assumption. What Bitcoin does, in open daylight and with global participation, is something no physical experiment has ever done, it computes time itself. Each block is the measurable conversion of Boltzmann entropy (energy/heat/randomness) into Shannon entropy (structured information). The block is the thermodynamic crystallization of a discrete quantum of time. And because this process is discrete, finite, and irreversible, Bitcoin provides the first physical standard for “before,” “after,” and the smallest unit of change a quantized universe can express through computation. Once time becomes discrete in a measurable way, the modern definition of superposition collapses. The claim that a qubit “exists” in multiple states simultaneously begs a question quantum mechanics never answers: simultaneously relative to what unit of time? If there is no measurable smallest interval of change, then simultaneity is an undefined continuum. But Bitcoin defines it. The nonce search bounds the entropy field, the block boundary commits the collapse, and the system openly demonstrates that uncollapsed potential is not an ontologically real set of states, it is only a probabilistic frontier, a mempool of possible futures. Only one configuration ever becomes physically realized, and its realization is tied to an explicit thermodynamic cost. Quantum theory, by contrast, treats this frontier as if it were a set of actual states. It treats probabilistic potential as physically real. It treats multiplicity as existence without defining “existence”. This is the same conceptual mistake as fractional-reserve banking: assuming many instances from a single backing unit. Bitcoin exposes this error because it is the first system where measurement is thermodynamic, verification is independent of observers, and existence is tied to an irreversible transformation of energy into memory. TLDR for quantum computing and encryption: Any computational model built on unverified assumptions about superposition is already physically nullified. The machinery cannot outperform the physics it denies. If unmeasured states are not real, then quantum speedups are not real. If simultaneity is bounded, then parallel amplitude evaluation is impossible. If time is discrete, then quantum decoherence is the feature, not the bug. IBitcoin does not “protect” cryptography by brute force. It invalidates the physical model required to threaten it. Bitcoin reveals that the superposition assumed by quantum algorithms never existed in the first place (despite the elegant math of the algorithms). It is not a matter of bigger primes or stronger algorithms. It is a matter of what the universe allows to exist. Bitcoin gives us the first verifiable standard for energy, information, and time into a variable computed object. Once you have a real standard, you are no longer obligated to accept unmeasured physical claims as knowledge. And once the physics collapses, the threat narrative collapses with it. Bitcoin, not Quantum.

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Hell yeah brother!

Maybe I'm not understanding. Bitcoin at best represents a logical process, not a physical one. This is like describing AC through a DC voltmeter. Does your theory describe chain reorganizations? Does it explain the double split phenomenon?

Chat GTP thinks you failed with this.

Chat gpt knows nothing about Bitcoin

Bitcoin isn’t a logical process. It is a thermodynamic process expressed through a logical protocol. Every block is a physical event of real expenditure of energy (Boltzmann entropy) collapsed into real, conserved information (Shannon entropy). The protocol is an instantiation of physics. Bitcoin is the first system where time is constructed from physical action rather than assumed as a mathematical background. Chain reorganizations make this obvious. A reorg is a physical realignment with the branch that committed more entropy. The longest chain is literally the longest thermodynamic trajectory. When a deeper chain appears, it isn’t rewriting history, it is revealing that a different physical path expended more energy. Bitcoin treats time exactly as physics should: the true sequence is the one backed by maximal irreversible work. This gives chain reorgs a meaning physics itself lacks as they demonstrate how causality must behave in a discrete, energy-defined universe. If universal chain orgs of time exist, they would occur at the Planck scale; we’d never even know because we can’t measure it. On the double-slit question: quantum mechanics assumes simultaneity without being able to measure it. No one has ever observed this phenomena at Planck-time resolution, so superposition fills the gap with probability amplitudes and then assumes in the claim that “multiple states exist at once.” Bitcoin shows why this is wrong. Probability only exists between discrete entropy commitments; once the collapse occurs, only one state is real. Again decoherence is the feature, not the bug. This is exactly how Bitcoin behaves: the mempool is an unresolved field, not multiple real states, and the block is the singular crystallization. Physics currently treats the “mempool” as though it already is the ledger and that is the fundamental error. Bitcoin forces physics to reveal its structure. It defines existence (crystallized information at a discrete point in memory at a discrete block of time), time (quantized irreversible entropy collapse), measurement (thermodynamic commitment of a block of time), simultaneity (occuring in same discrete intervals rather than continuum assumptions), and observer ( verification of states). If quantum theory contradicts these foundations, the problem is not Bitcoin , it is the theory.

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Even if time is discrete at the Planck length, the wave function is real enough at the atomic scale to run Shor's algorithm. The problem is Bitcoin's logic; nothing exists in between blocks. Its ledger doesn't model entanglement as it exists in reality. The mempool is just a waiting room.

I think. What you are saying is very interesting, especially that part about superpositions just being probabilistic frontiers of future time. But QC can't work for much more pedestrian reasons. There is a hard celling on scaling and it is low. And it's just thermodynamics. A few dozen qubits can stay coherent because we isolate them from the universe. A million constantly measured, tightly coupled qubits cannot. At that scale the system becomes a hot, correlated, non-Markovian macroscopic object. Errors stop being local and independent, syndrome measurement disturbs everything, and the fault-tolerance theorems no longer apply. Entropy wins. Quantum threat loses. That’s it.

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The misunderstanding begins with an assumption that is never questioned: that continuity is the baseline of reality, and discreteness isn’t fundamental . But conservation of energy and conservation of information require the opposite. You cannot conserve anything in a truly continuous manifold; without finite boundaries, measurement has no meaning. A universe that claims to preserve information must ultimately be built on a finite, ledgered substrate; a Planck-scale ledger beneath all experience. Bitcoin reveals the necessity of such a substrate. By saying “even if time is discrete at the Planck scale, the wavefunction is real enough at the atomic scale” you’re missing the ontological problem: what does “real enough” mean when you have no access to the unit that defines reality? You cannot assert simultaneity or superposition without the ability to measure the smallest unit of time in which simultaneity would occur, Planck Time. Modern physics treats the wavefunction as a real physical state because it has no alternative framework for describing unmeasured possibilities. But unmeasured is not “real.” It is simply unresolved potential, not being. They can’t even define measurement. Bitcoin is the only system where we can see the behavior of a quantized ledger from the outside. It constructs time by transforming Boltzmann entropy into Shannon entropy (memory) at discrete intervals. Because we observe Bitcoin from without, its discreteness is obvious. As you said, between blocks, nothing exists because nothing has been measured. But the mempool is not a “waiting room”; it is the unresolved probability surface that has not yet crossed the thermodynamic boundary required for existence. A hypothetical observer within Bitcoin would experience time as continuous, just as we do universally because they would be composed of the same discretized process that produces time. But from the outside, we see the quantized time directly. This lets us understand wavefunction clearly for the first time. The modern definition imagines superposition as a set of simultaneously existing physical states. But that is equivalent to claiming a single UTXO exists in multiple double-spent forms in the mempool and all are “real” until the block is mined. In Bitcoin, those states do not exist. They are possibilities that have not yet crossed the boundary into measurement. Only one outcome becomes real because only one is thermodynamically committed. This is the correct definition of collapse, not the Copenhagen observer based nonsense. Also, when you say Bitcoin “doesn’t model entanglement” or “nothing exists between blocks,” you are actually pointing to the revelation Bitcoin makes visible: nothing should exist between blocks of quantized time. Existence requires thermodynamic commitment. Reality is not the wavefunction; the wavefunction is a description of what has not yet been committed to the ledger of time. Superposition is not a cloud of simultaneous real states. It is the list of admissible futures prior to the next quantum of time. Utxo lineage is literally entanglement with proof. Quantum theory treats the “mempool” as the “blockchain”. Bitcoin shows why that is wrong. The only reason physicists cling to continuous time and “real” wavefunctions is because they cannot measure at the Planck scale. They cannot test the ontology, so they fill the gap with the observable probability. Bitcoin is testable. It is observable (verifiable). It is a live demonstration of how reality works when conservation of energy and conservation of information are implemented as a finite ledger. Once you have a quantized ledger to observe, the idea that unmeasured states “exist” collapses immediately. Bitcoin is the first window we’ve ever had into the structure of time from the outside, the wavefunction is no longer mysterious. It is simply the mempool of the universe, unmeasured potential. If quantum theory were literally true in the way its narratives describe it, we would don’t need a lab full of superconducting qubits to run Shor’s algorithm we can run it on Bitcoin today. It has enough qubits, and we can coordinate superposed UTXOs in mempool. Just use a single UTXO and broadcast a dozen conflicting spends across the network. According to the quantum ontology, every one of those contradictory states “exists” simultaneously in superposition. They are all “real” states of the system until measurement occurs. In Bitcoin’s terms, that corresponds exactly to mempool propagation: the unresolved, uncommitted surface of all possible futures. Now, wait for a miner to find a valid nonce. At that moment the mempool decoheres and the probability surface collapses into a single thermodynamically committed outcome. All but one of the “superposed UTXOs” vanish. This is exactly what the wavefunction is alleged to do. If we follow the logic of quantum computing, all we need at this point is a “quantum error correction” layer: a trusted black box, conveniently opaque, man behind the curtain to magically restore the superposed states that reality just destroyed. The contradiction is obvious: quantum theory requires physical states to double-spend themselves, to be both spent and unspent, committed and uncommitted, simultaneously. Fiat manifested into physics. Bitcoin proves this ontology false. A UTXO cannot exist in multiple contradictory states; the mempool is not existence. It is potential. Decoherence is not an error, it is the thermodynamic boundary between what exists and what does not. Superposition is not a set of real states; it is the list of admissible, unmeasured possibilities. The entire computational premise of quantum theory depends on treating unmeasured possibilities as real physical states the same way fiat economics treats unbacked liabilities as real money. In both cases, the system assumes double-spent units are legitimate inputs to computation. It is fiat physics: fractionally reserved qubits built on fractionally reserved ontology. Bitcoin ended this worldview in 2009. It shows that measurement is the only thing that confers existence, that time is constructed discretely, and no system can compute using states that have not crossed a thermodynamic boundary. The wavefunction is not a ledger of being; it is the mempool of the universe. And Shor’s algorithm, taken literally, requires a physics that Bitcoin has already falsified. Everyone is fearing Keynesian Computing. The real threat is trusting a model that collapses the moment verification is required.

Just watched that video and it literally said nothing. Thanks to nothing.

I generally agree. I tend to find best the proof that Bitcoin isn’t broken isn’t to simply disprove the standard model of superposition/collapse of the wave function. It disproves all theory built above, a Tower of Babel. Bitcoin is the correct instantiation and interpretation of QM experienced from without, rather than within. The illusion of measuring from inside time is really a major hurdle for most people to see beyond. What Bitcoin reveals is why entropy wins: the only scalable computation the universe permits is the irreversible transformation of Boltzmann entropy (heat) into Shannon entropy (information), that’s literally what a block is. QC tries to suppress entropy long enough to pretend superposed states are “real” physical resources. Bitcoin uses decoherence to produce truth; QC dies from it. So the real threat is the fantasy that physics can be tricked into behaving like fractional-reserve computation. Bitcoin already implements the only quantum process that actually scales: entropy → measurement → memory → time. A machine that cannot survive entropy cannot threaten a system whose correctness comes from entropy.

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I'm replying so I can be sure to find this later, as i will be reading it again multiple times I'm sure. And also to thank you again for your exciting and fascinating ideas. You are getting better at describing your thesis. I now feel as though I understand it, just probably not quite well enough to explain it to someone else. Cheers!

Thanks, Teo. Every day the picture becomes clearer as I work through the proofs. The deeper I go, the more I can compress the complexity into something people can actually digest. Throwing the ideas into the gauntlet forces me to refine the math on the back end and sharpen the concepts on the front. It helps when you’re working with something irrefutable. Bitcoin is the truth you can always return to. If you ever feel doubt creeping in, just observe Bitcoin again, the clarity always comes back.