Lol.
PoW exists to make it hard to rewrite history, not to prevent spam.
This is obviously just more dishonesty masquerading as "bridge building" after a week of non-stop character assassination after many months of bad faith interaction.
Citing your credentials "I have worked on anonymous systems for over a decade. I have read tons of research on spam detection, rate-limiting, and I've implemented spam prevention techniques in the real world."
...is not enough to make people pretend you're arguing in good faith here which you obviously aren't having opened with rewriting the entire function of what PoW does and how Satoshi used it. We know specifically what Satoshi did about spam and you're ignoring it because that would contradict your premise.
(Further - spam filtration does not imply centralization. The opposite is the case. No one is going to run nodes if they do not posses the tools to prevent their mempools filling up with porn/malware and anything else that can leverage the idiocy of Bitcoin's developers.)
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You replied to the wrong guy. Thank you for yourknowledge 🙏
Dude, is this debate super important?
Wild to hear the creator of a centralized mint system lecture Bitcoin about centralization. Cashu literally runs on trusted mints
Oops. Nostrudel makes me bad at Nostr.
Yes otherwise I'd let this nonsense go unchallenged
Do you think that the intention of Blockstream to bring simplicity into Bitcoin code is why they want to have a centralized dev group?
@Bitcoin Mechanic is still engaging with Calle in very civilised manner...!!!
Calle doesn't deserve to have any conversation in good faith or civilised manner.
If someone creates app like bitchat doesn't mean that he understands bitcoin more than 80IQ plebs (at least from monetary perspective)
If someone creates custodial shitcoin doesn't mean that he understands Bitcoin more than 80IQ plebs.
80IQ plebs should either shame or troll the Calle. This clown can never be taken seriously anymore.
Whoever promotes Calle should also be questioned IMO.
#RunKnots
#ObliterateCore
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Ask yourself.
Who benefits by pricing normal people out of node running?
Who benefits by centralisation? Who benefits from making Bitcoin illegal?
Because allowing child abuse material "spam" as y'all call it, on the blockchain is going to make it illegal to run a node.
And all that extra data to host is going to make it more expensive.
More expensive and illegal will create more centralisation
Go build something
@Hagbud catching strays
Srry fam
wait a minute... are you implying PoW plays no role in spam prevention?
@calle you don't want to miss this daily dose of entertainment ;)
lol Adam Back would like to have a word
cry harder 😂 

Mechanic just go to X and ask Adam Back why he created PoW. He is kind enough to tell you.
Reading Calle's post + my 2 sats:
POW as utilized by the bitcoin solves consensus without an authority. Add in DA to emit coins without an authority who takes profit = slower/fixed and fair coin emission.
Requiring Fees + creating competition (blk size limit) to transact "slows down" transaction rate and places a cost (just like filters) to move/spend your saved-work/coins.
You have to have SATs to play.
Sats only have value due to the POW-DA design.
Sats are pure POW and will be the best neutral uncorruptible filter.
they don't under the difference between spam prevention and rate limiting.
i can get a spam email once a year. spam has nothing to do with rate im getting emails. i can also get one thousands of non-spam emails per day.