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I think that's a fair criticism if the goal is to build a general-purpose smartphone. But that's not what Commodore is trying to do. The C64 Ultimate has Wi-Fi, networking, FTP, BBS access, and online services, yet intentionally omits a browser. The Callback follows the same philosophy. At the same time, Commodore OS Vision exists. It's a Debian-based Commodore Linux distro you can install on a modern PC, and it gives you the option to install a browser or not. It's actually very cool. You should check it out. To me, this seems less about maximizing access to the modern web and more about encouraging a different relationship with technology and online communities. You may disagree with that decision, but I don't see it as a flaw. I see it as a deliberate design choice. The limitation is the feature.

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nodesy nodesy@primal.net 6 days ago

thanks for posting this, i was trying to wrap my head around the issue. will need to get ahead of all apps and switch from email based authentication. i assume they have authy/sms text for temp codes.

Laeserin laeserin@gitcitadel.com 6 days ago

It's the crunchy-granola phone.

Jacob 🍵 5 days ago

Yep, I've used Commodore OS Vision on a retro build I did. I also plan to get a C64 Ultimate when I can afford it (won't be for a while). Likewise, I would love to have a Commodore phone that does all that they're doing but still offers the ability to use a web browser. I'd like a privacy phone that cuts down on addictive elements but still lets me feel like I own the device. I'm certainly not alone on that, either. I fear that them appealing to a very narrow niche of people will be a costly mistake, which is the last thing we need when we JUST got them back after three decades.

Ava ava@nostrplebs.com 5 days ago

I hear you. Considering their tagline is Retro Futurism, it may be in the cards. I'm looking forward to seeing where they take the brand from here. However, if you want a browser, stay away from the C64 Ultimate. Get the C64X instead. The Ultimate doesn't run Commodore OS Vision, and intentionally omits a web browser. It's built around the internet we used to have—things like BBSes, where people don't go viral. Worth noting: Leo Nigro, creator of Commodore OS Vision and the original C64X, is now part of the new Commodore team. The C64X you can buy today comes from a 2022 relaunch led by Sean Donohue. Same umbrella, very different products. And like Nostr, sometimes fewer people means higher-quality interactions. Judging by the traction this post is getting, and the mentality of the average Nostr user, I don't think Commodore's niche is as narrow as you'd expect. As of a couple weeks ago, Commodore reported having manufactured over 30,000 new Commodore 64 Ultimates, with revenue putting them in the top 0.01% of startups. Source:

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