Whenever I visit Germany or the Nordic countries i’m always surprised at that the way everybody just assumes i speak the language. It’s kind of nice, but a little weird too. My mom’s family immigrated to the US in the 1880’s but only switched to speaking English at home because of WWII. For obvious reasons of not being down with the politics of Germany at the time. After the war, they didn’t go back to speaking German, except for songs and keeping cultural traditions. It’s really interesting to be in a place where your ancestors come from. A few years ago I went to the tiny village of Plath, a couple hours north of Berlin. As far as we know that’s where my family came from. It’s a very small place, a couple hundred houses, a church, a bunch of farms, and no shops or restaurants of any kind. Honestly it didn’t look like any buildings had been built in the last 150 years. Now when I’m in Germany, like I find myself today, I just feel kind of weird and incompetent when i have to explain that i don’t speak german to everybody I interact with. A few times today, getting through the airport in Munich, they’ve just ignored my protestations that I don’t speak German and went ahead trying to tell me something in German anyway. Maybe they think i’m acting the way German’s claim they don’t speak good english but then proceed to be entirely fluent. Germany isn’t very helpful a language to speak in New Zealand, I’m going to try Te Reo first, but maybe someday i’ll spend more time with focus in a german speaking country and try and learn.

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HoloKat 7 months ago
I went through middle school in US without speaking a word of English. It was interesting. Just kind of stare dazed and pretend like it all makes sense.
The people in the largest part of Europe just speak to you in their own mother tongue. Especially in rural areas. If you are in cities it’s totally different and in the Netherlands many cities base language is English, not Dutch. When going to high school, having to learn Dutch, English, German, French, ancient Latin and Greek you really think what a wast of brain space is enforced upon you. If everyone across the globe would focus on learning English life would become significantly easier for all. As that is the main programming and business language you would assume that the focus would be on learning and improving everyone’s English in the next decades. It would propel global cooperation further which is much needed. Also the global adoption of metric standard would help a lot. The mess I’ve encountered in engineering with connecting water pipes of all kinds of “standards” from Japan, China, Europe etc in Indonesia is simply insane. Luckily we see a move towards metric standards in general. Similar with electric power grid standards and plug socket uniformation. There’s simply so much loss in not agreeing on a uniform money, language / communication standard. Luckily we all agreed on TCP/IP 😂
If you don't make an effort learn the language you automatically put yourself as a second class citizen. If you move to a new country you should make an effort to learn the language. Frankly, moving to a country that is different than your native language is shitty, learning a language is a never ending process. I feel sorry for most struggling with the language, but most times it's their fault for not wanting to learn. It's especially bad if you have to work in that country. If you go there to retire then learning the language is not important. Just don't get in the way of the working class.
Is't it normal, that very person assumes you speak the local language always? Since there is the highest probability that one can speak it? I mean when a german just starts speaking french or spanish, it would be kind of weird. Probably in new zealand also most people assume any stranger speaks english or not?
living in Munich, i was spoken to in German continuously by neighbors even tho I clearly states "ich lerne aber ich spreche keine Deutsche"
@mar yeah I agree. Learning a new language isn’t easy and I have no particular affinity for languages, but I put it a fair amount of effort to become fluent in Spanish and glad for it. In terms of German, I’ve only visited for at most a week at a time, not nearly enough to learn the language. My current situation living in Aotearoa New Zealand the de facto language is English but the official language is Te Reo Māori. In effect what happens is people speak a dialect of English with significant lexical substrate influence from Te Reo Māori. When I first arrived I had to google everything 10th word to understand any kind of official communication from the government or schools. While I support people learning the language where they live but most of the criticism of immigrants not leaning the language well enough feels xenophobic.
@Achilles oh I’m sure everyone speaks English. And frankly Germans aren’t so picky about people speaking their language as French are. I just find it funny people are ignoring my apology for not understanding German. Everyone is very nice.
Lot’s of people prefer to speak in their mother tongue, especially when they’re not very confident in the foreign language you‘re trying to make them speak. That’s it…