What was the last really cool, online thing to be made?
I'm thinking legendary stuff like:
Soulseek
Archive dot org
Piratebay
Libgen
Freesounds
This sort of level of stuff...
#asknostr
(I know everyone will say nostr, but let's say besides nostr, which sort of hasn't made enough of a reach for legendary status... Just yet, but hopefully one day)
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I should've included Bitcoin on that list, there's lots of stuff missing
Probably tor too
Netscape Navigator was pretty epic
gruuv if it had any f&#@ing dungeonsynth. Where is my wizardcore?
The invention of BitTorrent is still my favorite
Love it or hate it you have to include YouTube. Particularly when they went to a shared revenue model. They created a whole new category of streaming "content" which has made some people wildly successful. It has also decimated Mainstream TV media, and that can only be a good thing.
Would FIPS count?
Inpc.cat is pretty cool
Don't know what that is
I think I'd include YouTube solely for early YouTube, but maybe for some of these reasons too. Maybe.
This is even more niche than nostr no? I don't think this has reached legendary status... Yet
All these things are pretty old. The latest thing is still very old. 🤔
There must be a Really Cool Thing on the Internet that is more recent than all these examples?
Obsidian?
Has that reach legendary status?
livejournal
No one has anything more recent lol? 🥲
Sad state of affairs
Anna's Archive
That is relatively recent
Perhaps this is the latest cool thing to be made on the Internet?
Yeah I don't know, I think that's why a lot of us are a bit nostalgic for an earlier decade, and why we're on nostr. It's rekindling the rebel spirit that almost died under VC money influence, engagement farming, and DMCA lawsuits killing file sharing.
What if we bundle the entire high speed mesh networking gang? FIPS, Yggdrasil and CJDNS?
CJDNS is the oldest of these and is linked to the pkt.cash project, FIPS is similarly linked to TollGate. Yggdrasil spun off from CJDNS to experiment with spanning tree stuff.
The general idea is to deploy permissionless, sovereign infrastructure. Media independent, so fiber, ethernet, wifi, Bluetooth etc are all fair game, rather than lock yourself behind a slow expensive custom radio mesh.
yes probably so maybe IPFS
I want to love IPFS but it’s not done yet.
Ooof I'm totally out of my depth here. But maybe! I'll take your word for it:)
You would rank it as legendary as soulseek, piratebay etc?
If so, then I'll take the answer:)
Difficult to say. The tech is solid, but not many people know of it today.
I’m sure it would’ve been a blessing for Iranian people because one of its inherent characteristics is that you can have as many or as little “uplinks” to the rest of the world and the mesh just figures out a way to route around without requiring human coordination like BGP, which is what runs most of the internet routing today.
It could be on par with early day bitcoin or it could be like one of the precursors to bitcoin.
Contrary to fiat, the internet wasn’t designed with malicious intent, it was barely designed and had to scale fast so compromises were made.
But it’s no surprise that malicious institutions benefit from the current state of affairs, IPv6 has been not only ignored but also nerfed. For instance, it has a global multicast reserved, which would be useful for p2p service discovery over the internet but most ISPs simply block it.
It took a whole lot of abuse from the fiat system to push some people into bitcoin, do we need to wait for more infrastructure abuse to finally see people adopt high speed meshnets?
Will TollGate/pkt.cash infiltrate mesh over time? I don’t know the answer.
Lastly there’s also the case of applications: clearnet is highly optimized for client server architectures and heavily penalizes p2p, not because the fiber optics don’t like p2p, but because devices weren’t globally addressable before IPv6 and hole punching NATs was a whole ordeal, then inertia developed due the slow adoption of IPv6.
Think about it: we ask for no permission to sign our notes but instead of pushing them directly to one another we settle with sending notes to a random “relay” which then passes it forward.
So suppose that we live in the same city and we connect every single thing with FIPS. Great, many redundant routes to choose from, we can ping each other. But if said city loses all of its connections to the outside world, and we haven’t set up a nostr relay inside, or we did but didn’t add to our client config etc. we simply won’t be able to exchange notes, even though we’re both routable to each other.
Great, so applications don’t need to be changed to work with mesh networks but they will not be able to utilize them to the full potential unless they do.
But wait a minute, the astute optmizooor says, if the internet is what everyone uses and meshnets are just a niche then we should ignore them until they have users!
And then meshnets end up in a potential limbo of value.
It’s a chicken and egg situation, nobody makes p2p friendly networks because nobody makes p2p applications because nobody makes p2p friendly networks.
TL;DR: I think the tech is pretty solid, it’s the logical next step in infrastructure but the market can stay irrational longer than you can remain solvent so ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
syncthing.net
Anonshop.app
itch.io
Interesting
Sci-hub
4chan, napster, limewire, ask jeeves
The app Merlin Bird ID is the last thing I discovered that I thought was truly incredible technology that enhances life.
Nothing more recent? :)
Never heard of it
miniclip
9gag
akinator
vine
geoguessr
Geocites
Or was it geocities?
Invidious ia pretty cool should merge with @Fountain (that I still boomer tech dont know how to use).
Bluetooth mesh/Bitchat pretty cool
I think bitchat does have the potential to reach legendary status
