Maybe QC can work at scale, rendering current cryptography useless. Maybe it cannot. But, lets assume QC can work. Let us also assume some country currently has a QC.
What do you do with it? Because, if anyone knows you have it, the world economy tanks. This is not like a nuclear weapon. Knowledge of its existence cannot be used for deterrance. No one is going to trust that it is not being used. So trust in our communication systems completely fails with knowledge of its existence. Commerce and cooperation fail. Social structures disintegrate. Order turns to disorder, which reduces the value of the QC itself.
Instead, you want to very, very quietly use it to simply stop anyone else from achieving QC, all while encouraging quick adoption of quantum resistant cryptography. You want to convince everyone that QC cannot exist for a long period of time, but still hold out its threat in the future. And if someone does figure it out alongside you, you join forces and work together to hide its existence.
But you want quantum resistance in place before you announce your QC achievement, such that you can monetize the value of the QC computing without destroying the economy which is needed to do so. In the interim, you quietly accumulate secrets.
Whether bitcoin survives this transition, as a communication system with a monetary use case, is unknown. Quantum resistance maybe bloats the blockchain and is a bridge too far, etc. IDK. Not everything will survive.
So interesting to see China lean into gold, while the US leans increasingly into bitcoin.
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I disagree.
People will merely continue to use the best available option.
Reinforcement learning agents
We know banks are committing fraud, but the ubiquitous nature of highstreet banking and legislation means we keep using it.
If pigs can fly and quantum computing works, it will have to be used at scale to render online banking too risky
Same low IQ stupid argument with nukes
World powers pretent nukes are real yet act like they don't ( uk doing long range strikes into Russia )
A prole can never know what the kings and wizards are doing.
I wouldn't call this low IQ... There was some new ideas in here, at least for me.
But that's an interesting point, how states are acting like nukes aren't real. I've had similar thoughts during the attacks on middle eastern countries - if the threat of a nuke is enough, then why don't they just claim to have one? If I were them, I'd prefer the PE fallout (lol) from the claim than the real devastation from being attacked. If nukes are real, and so easy to build that the US could do it with computers a million times **_worse_** than a calculator, then why tf doesn't everyone have them? Either claim, or actually have them, but neither makes no sense to me.
it's because nukes aren't real.
i dare you to read this
not that long, about 80 pages i think. it's a fraud, and they all know it, it's just for the idiots watching their TVs.
fissioning plutonium doesn't explode, it emits a huge amount of radiation, anyway, and the explosions it might cause would be caused by rapidly boiling carbon, which forms into a firestorm. but the actual tech they used in japan, firstly, they made sure almost nobody was around, and they were modified saturation bombs, which just produce a massive amount of heat and vaporise carbon. you know it's not legit because they don't destroy power poles and trees. the bombs they used create firestorms, the custom mod was adding a lot of magnesium to make it flash brightly, more than the nitrogen based explosives these firebombs use.
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Exploding the nuclear weapon hoax
Well if it's a dare... Can I get a double dog dare?
I'll check it out
Hey.... 228 pages ain't 80... I want a refund
double dog dare.
shit, i read it in like 7 hours.
nah, was more like 5
I'm a very slow reader. I might actually be retarded. Seriously.
i read the novelized version of Mad Max 3 at the age of 12 in one day:
The novelization of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome was written by celebrated science fiction author Joan D. Vinge and published by QB Books in 1985. This novelization expands on the events of the film, filling in background details about Auntie Entity (played by Tina Turner), Bartertown, and Max Rockatansky's past. It is considered the best of the three novelizations, offering insights into Max's thoughts through monologues and filling in gaps between scenes that were not included in the film. The book is based on various stages of George Miller's screenplays and is regarded as canonical within the franchise.
https://www.alibris.com/booksearch.detail?invid=18398348261&cart=1
lol i gotta get this book at some point.
yes, i borrowed it from the library, and sat on the couch and finished it in one day.
ah i see, it wasn't as big as i thought. 220 pages
yeah, Michael Ende's book The Neverending Story. that was 600 pages. it was the first book of this size i read. yeah, 448 pages. i think it took me a week or two. absolute page-turner of a book for little 9 year old me.
yeah, i read fast, same as i type fast. i recognise text without really reading it.
i wish it had given me some benefit in my life but it helps a lot when coding, and the reason why i love reading Go code so much and hate almost all other languages is because i can scroll screenfulls of a source code file and pick out some specific kind of code areas just by a glance and catching the shape of it.
if you were interested in learning to read faster, the key has to do with learning to recognise the shapes of the words. probably some kind of thing where it flashes the text for like 10ms and then you type what you saw.
i just intuitively learned how to do it.
i read about 3x or maybe 4x faster than normal speech, about 300wpm or so.
also, the neverending story was 448 pages. haha.
i'm pretty sure i remember it right that Human Action was about 900 pages. i read it while commuting.
oh yeah Crime and Punishment i read the whole thing on a train between sofia and belgrade. so i guess that's a "big novel" about 400 pages.
200 pages is an afternoon
yeah, really, even just reading a few score pages of it you will not want to stop until you finish.
the red flags on this thing stand out of the story like spines on a hedgehog.
I've seen a software thingy that makes the first couple letters of words bold, which allows me to read at a normal speed. But it costs something I don't want to pay, and I'm skeptical it can apply to things I find all over the internet.
I actually think being a slow reader has benefitted me. I'm forced to be more meditative with texts, which I think yields more of the meaning the author intended. Several times, I've asked people what a book they're reading is about and they've actually said they don't know, or can't remember what they just read. So weird... Seems like a waste of time, then.
I checked out Go for a little while after some previous conversations with you, and I liked it. It was much easier to get into and quickly start doing things than C++, and especially Rust, which I officially hate. I ought to restart that little project... But its also hard not going into C++ for the simple fact that people doing things I like, such as electronics, overwhelmingly use C++. I don't really learn at all without direct and physical application - if I get into coding, I **_must_** focus on electronics - I would have no choice, because without the physical interaction, I simply don't learn.
Working on it
the narrow focus of Go's users towards network servers is frustrating. many applications especially games and GUIs benefit from the kind of simplifications you can do with CSP concurrency.
it's one of the biggest bugbears i have, about the language. i kinda sorta almost solved it, to a reasonable degree, with a GUI toolkit i was building some time ago. i just updated its dependencies finally the day before yesterday.
gonna amuse myself with that. the hard task that had blocked me from resuming it is now done. took only a few hours, breaking api's are hell when you don't have an LLM to help.
regarding the text thing, that seems like such a simple thing to charge for it seems a bit disgusting considering.
when i am deep in a book, ask me about it and you will regret it, if you have something you need to do. i can read a dozen pages and then talk for an hour about it, if it's interesting.
Hey, nostr idea. Would be cool if we could highlight a section of a note and respond with emojis or zaps to each section independently
Pro tip in life: people lie
The obvious answer is Nukes are fake, same as quantum computing.
Engineers have their domain
Artists have theirs
Teachers have theirs
Managers have theirs
Managers can fuck out of the engineer domain with their low IQ slop rhetoric.
Managers can fuck off in all domains. Useless people...
I'm sorry, but I think you completely missed my point. Your "let's assume" is doing way too much work there. Let's not assume. Let's not do anything to Bitcoin that someone can't explain to us, from first principles, without smuggling in a "let's assume". Especially when we can disprove their premise from first principles ourselves.
QC can't scale.
Because, at scale,
thermodynamics takes over.
At scale, the cat is alive or it is dead.
Hi. Thanks for your passion and response. So, lets assume QC cannot be built. 😂 If you will also allow, let's also assume bitcoin becomes a geopolitical battleground for global monetary dominance, with China leaning into gold and the US embracing bitcoin. In other words, it increasingly becomes in the interests of US enemies to ow and stop demand for bitcoin. Whether QC is real or not, can China cause sufficient FUD around the QC threat to derail confidence in bitcoin and cause massive amounts of misallocated investment? Can enemies help encourage quantum resistant soft forks, which weaken the system in various ways (increasing size of the blockchain, centralization, unproven cryptography, etc)?
That's sort of my point. The FUD is the real threat. Don't feed it.
And let's not assume anything. QC can't work. This isn't about betting on a engineering problem being solved or not. Engineers can't change physics.
Just like AGI, this is not a question of engineering. It's a category error. Neither imagined technology is connected to reality by anything but pure imagination. They are each based on an unfounded, metaphysical, article of pure irrational belief.
QC research assumes that there is some magical way to scale a quantum system without it turning into a thermodynamic system. There is no evidence of that. Microscopically, the universe appears to be quantum (or so they tell us.) Macroscopically, everything obeys thermodynamics. If you add a lot of quantum stuff together., you get thermodynamics. The idea that we can make the universe act any other way is absolutely unfounded. At best, all these billions in QC research will make a precise map of the scaling relationship between quantum and thermodynamic behavior.
China can say whatever they want. They can say that Bitcoin is haunted or whatever. So what?
Same with the AI Boogeyman (the one who is going to come and create QC scaling, by some accounts.) There is no reason to believe that scaling neural nets will some day cause them to come to life and produce new information. They are just fancy databases of compressed statistical data. They are cool and useful as such, but that's it.
There is no amount of lighting with which you can hit Frankenstein's monster and bring him to life.
We should not do anything to Bitcoin based on baseless fever dreams, particularly those coming from our enemies. We also should not burn our economy to the ground chasing AI specters either.
Apocalyptic hype bubbles themselves are the danger.
Here's a thought experiment for you, if you want one.
Lately China has been releasing an "oh, yeah, we already know that" paper right after each one of ours. What if they are just posturing?
What if they are amplifying gay woke stuff online and shipping precoursers for fent, while they double down on masculinity and push families and clean living at home?
What if they are burning coal while they sell us magnets for the green revolution?
What if they are gassing us up on AI and QC threat too?
What if the point is to exhaust us with fear and make us burn ourselves to the ground chasing shadows, while they build real shit?
Bitcoin should ignore the FUD and keep building real shit. That's my take.