What if somebody made a nostr micro app that looked at your reactions and sent a zap every time you had a reaction. This wouldn’t need to be in Damus, but because Apple will allow lightning wallet integration, and zaps based on profiles, but not posts, you can still put in your address and do a wallet connect. But then users could use a service, using nostr, but not created by any of the developers working with apple, to do a zaps for reactions service. Should be pretty easy to do with Nostr Wallet Connect, no? The only downside is I bet Apple probably wouldn’t let you link to or mention it in the app…

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They don’t allow you to link to outside sites for payments if they would consider the payment an in-app purchase. I think the best solution is making the profile picture the zap button, and, unfortunately, not showing zap counts on notes.
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brah 2 years ago
Isn’t that pretty much exactly what wallet context is? A “zap” is just an event that another service reads and sends a lightning transaction on your behalf (after giving it permissions)
What’s the rational from Apple to allow zaps on profiles but not on notes? I suspect that any attempt to circumvent this tolerance will lead to a stricter interpretation of the in-app purchase rule.
I understand but we have to draw a line at some point or it won’t stop here. Instead of bending the knee to apple, they should bend the knee to their customers.
This seems to be cool workaround. But we should have to think about workarounds like this in the first place. I understand Apple's reaction. Things like this can make or break their empire. In the same way that RFK Jr and Trump won't be allowed to participate in the presidential election.
First find there weak spot... Give tho wo greed, the silver?! Isn't it always about money, and a valid deed to gen rev from initial platform invest? Offer 1%, 2 ... n% of zap to 🐛🍏 and on🚢 board them? Show a message * that zap would have been untaxed on other platform*. If they still refuse, you know it's plain censorship, and can start a valid shitstorm...
Sure, but you can choose to not use iOS devices. The thing is, we can’t 20% of the world’s population. I think we should promote a campaign for apple to be forced to allow alternative payment providers and alternative app stores. Until then, we can try and navigate their complicated contradictory rules.
Just keep building endless iOS apps, endless Android apps, endless web apps, endless PWA’s. Build endless web services and endless desktop services. Doesn’t anyone get it yet? Nostr is a social media hydra, it cannot be killed, you cannot be banned, every entry route in leads to the same accounts, the same followers, the same network. The more access points nostr has, the more resilient it becomes.
The apps aren’t the destination, they are doors. The new protocols are the destination. Build as many doors in as many places as possible, if they barricade some doors, just build more. Eventually everything will bleed into the new protocols.
Just build more is not a sustainable strategy. Time and money are limited resources. Work smarter, not harder.
The business is government captured anyway so it’s not going to put up much of a fight. How much apple stock is owned by the likes of blackrock and vanguard? I imagine a lot.
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diasporic 2 years ago
It sounds like you are proposing something like "zaps" (or positive reactions, whatever it may be called) as nsec-signed promissory notes (or alternatively, "votes") which are then redeemed by a separate, loosely coupled service attached to a lightning wallet. This would replace considering "zaps" as instant direct micropayments for "content". It's certainly a lot of indirection and added UX friction for what should be a simple feedback mechanism, just to work around one company's insistence on being the middleman. On the other hand this might create some interesting possibilities of many-to-many value-xfer streams. For example: • funds are paid into a multisig wallet • the wallet owners register approved npubs who can endorse • these npubs "endorsement zaps" are tracked and funded automatically (maybe up to some limit) • or alternatively there could be some sort of periodic "top 10 most endorsed" funding or some similar popularity prize • these wallets could be perpetual micro-Nobel committees, each formed by affinity groups, foundations, whatever sort of group of people who want to pool funds