Liars hate to hear the truth. They really don’t like being called out. They can’t deny the allegations since they are true. They just start calling names and slinging mud.

here is proof primal sucks, don't recommend it or pay for their subscription, they flagged my other account when I tried to get a lightning address

yeah its sad

what have you got against centralization, man

Even I’m starting to get hate from Calle and I’m literally nobody lol

dude gets crazy defensive and can’t handle criticism

If these allegations are true, I would like to apologize to you. I have no connection to Primal. I just find it crazy that people behave like that on Nostr. This platform should be different from X and other places filled with bots. From what I can tell, you seem to be an important figure on Nostr, so it’s not nice to hear something like this.

As soon as they wanted all that info I was out

wtf is this, provide government ID...doesn't sound very censorship resistant

Fuck fuckity fuuuuuuck Primal

With my limited understanding of Primal, I think they make fair tradeoffs for the sake of usability. However, I could never get their verification to work even if I wanted to. It motivated me to find alternatives, but I'm fairly certain Primal onboarded me back in the day.

Now do core30

what I don't understand is why is calle so keen on defending primal

he seems to really like centralized solutions to improve ux? Although primal has some pretty severe privacy issues (they were logging searches by npub at one point) so its odd considering hes a privacy guy.

You don’t simply explain how Primal works. Your framing to our “confused users” is that Primal is evil. You can keep playing the victim, but a simple fact is that in 100% of cases, you are the instigator. Literally every single time. Most times we don’t even respond, but today we did.

I think centralization is really bad and evil yes, it just so happens primal is the only app that does it this way. I would criticize any other app that does it this way as well. I don’t know why you guys frame the response as “jb55 is just jealous we’re building a better product” and “we’re busy shipping and you aren’t “ both are demonstrably untrue. We are just focused on different things. It *is* a problem you are marketing yourselves as a decentralized app, proven by the fact every primal user i talk to came to primal thinking it’s decentralized and complain to me when things are broken. I will continue to educate your users if you refuse to, because i actually want to teach people about nostr instead of mislead them for profit.

We’ve always been open about the tradeoffs we’re making, literally from day zero. I published a blog post the day we launched Primal. Similar situation with Cashu, yet you keep attacking both projects. Weird. Explaining how the tech works is great. Repeatedly saying “Primal censors people” is underhanded FUD. If you want to keep doing that, that’s your choice; we’ll just know that you’re engaging in bad faith.

Centralized solutions are easier to work with, and it feels like they don't limit your possibilities — at least for a while.

you're being too charitable

No i am

It makes perfect sense when you consider he’s probably a fed for German intelligence

😂 ridiculous people with your ridiculous “anti censorship platform”. She is a well known adult on xvideos 😂 I’ll keep posting. 😂 shove your platform up your ass.

😂 ridiculous people with your ridiculous “anti censorship platform”. She is a well known adult on xvideos 😂 I’ll keep posting. 😂 shove your platform up your ass.

Of course they do. They want you stop tarnishing their rep with the truth.

I tried Notedeck today. Couldn't make the newest one work but the previous version kind of worked. I didn't see any safe login options that also allowed read/write privileges. Npub is safe but I only get read privileges. I asked Dave, the built in AI if there was a way to log into Notedeck using the Alby browser extension and it seemed to think there was a way. It gave me instructions but the instructions were not specific. It was assuming based on whatever it decided was typical. That was very frustrating. I realize you are not the AI, but it might be good to train it to give responses based strictly on confirmed information or clearly state when certain capabilities are not supported. I don't know if that's something that it can be trained to do by default or if individual users like me are going to have to do this training. Ideally the training would be baked in and we wouldn't have to waste time figuring out that the AI lied. Lastly, I want to point out that new users to any platform don't like seeing buttons with pictures only. People communicate and think using words, not pictures. I don't know what is and what is not possible, but it would be ideal for UX if the default setting was to have menu buttons with actual words on them. If users want to regress to caveman mode with glyphs in lieu of words, that's fine, but for new people trying to orient themselves to this brand new thing, we need words on the menu buttons. Icon symbols are only frustrating at that stage.

yeah you are looking at the first release, next release will have words!

Lol the name calling part is definitely great for their rep.

are they really easier? to me they feel harder because you have to make them all for example primal had to do the frontend and the backend for their centralized platform while a real nostr client is just one thing

Rough spot. Explaining how a client works is not an attack. In open protocols, clarity helps everyone. A small testable spec of Primal cache behavior and opt-out paths could cool this down. Is there a source of truth you want people to link?