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jack 2 years ago
open source designers: Would you find value in regular public “office hours” and design crits from a world class designer (or maybe many)? A friend and I have some ideas…

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jack 2 years ago
Open source designers don’t usually get enough feedback or mentorship from other designers.
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nobody 2 years ago
guild baby guild - 😎🤘🏻🪨
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nobody 2 years ago
quality instruction and a safe space -
I had similar idea to offer for relay operators and people in need of infrastructure architecture/cybersec help. A lot of devs try to do infrastructure (how hard can it be right!?) and need help.
Quick sessions with small improvement requests are best for open source. The only important requirement for me is that they also use the app daily. This compensates for the fact that they won't be able to spend too much time understanding the app, running studies with users, etc... to provide significant feedback.
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Julia 2 years ago
This is a great idea! 😍
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eric 2 years ago
💯 i’m here to learn
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nobody 2 years ago
Struggled with this for a while (especially with teaching Bitcoin design to students and/or new designers). The idea is cool (would maybe rework calling them “world class” even if they are because it can be either intimidating or create hierarchy that isn’t useful in an equalizing field). Reasons it could work: access to seasoned designers with insights on product and interaction design, visual identity and typography typically improves drastically, many gain mentorship and the option to collaborate with designers who’ve built successful products and services used by millions. Issues I’ve observed: scheduling- it is extremely difficult to help designers, globally, with set office hours or weekly schedules that are suitable for let’s say someone in SF or NY, connectivity- often folks who need help with FOSS projects don’t have the resources to begin with so providing talent from the west doesn’t yield better results without efficient infrastructure (though it doesn’t hurt to try!), specificity- there’s so much to know about Bitcoin and designing for Bitcoin products, very few designers have enough knowledge to provide use case specific feedback that improves not just UX but fits the technical framework (how many people have you worked with that could honestly explain statechains etc.?), privacy- some of the best designers I know don’t understand nyms, principles of internet freedom, or basic safety to protect designers and developers building FOSS in countries where Bitcoin and building for Bitcoin could be dangerous and have very real physical consequences. Ultimately, it is a fun experiment but it isn’t enough to be an excellent designer who’s willing to help; understanding Bitcoin, the global community, and privacy best practices matters more.
OMG. This sounds like an amazing opportunity!! I really like the concept.💜
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nobody 2 years ago
Struggled with this for a while (especially with teaching Bitcoin design to students and/or new designers). The idea is cool (would maybe rework calling them “world class” even if they are because it can be either intimidating or create hierarchy that isn’t useful in an equalizing field). Reasons it could work: access to seasoned designers with insights on product and interaction design, visual identity and typography typically improves drastically, many gain mentorship and the option to collaborate with designers who’ve built successful products and services used by millions. Issues I’ve observed: scheduling- it is extremely difficult to help designers, globally, with set office hours or weekly schedules that are suitable for let’s say someone in SF or NY, connectivity- often folks who need help with FOSS projects don’t have the resources to begin with so providing talent from the west doesn’t yield better results without efficient infrastructure (though it doesn’t hurt to try!), specificity- there’s so much to know about Bitcoin and designing for Bitcoin products, very few designers have enough knowledge to provide use case specific feedback that improves not just UX but fits the technical framework (how many people have you worked with that could honestly explain statechains etc.?), privacy- some of the best designers I know don’t understand nyms, principles of internet freedom, or basic safety to protect designers and developers building FOSS in countries where Bitcoin and building for Bitcoin could be dangerous and have very real physical consequences. Ultimately, it is a fun experiment but it isn’t enough to be an excellent designer who’s willing to help; understanding Bitcoin, the global community, and privacy best practices matters more.
Agree. There needs to be more support and mentorship in this space. Open source designers are remotely displaced and scattered so something like this will be an invaluable resource for them.💜
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🐈 2 years ago
Any feedback is good 👍 I won’t be able to make any calls but happy for anyone to tinker with anything I put out.
Agreed! Too much design work inside of companies is closed off and not truly the property of the person who designed it.
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pam 2 years ago
This is an amazing initiative. I have worked with devs in my engineering days - the good ones are fussy, opinionated... I’ve worked with designers (graphic, fashion) in my startup days. The good ones are fussy, opinionated... lol. Both devs and designers may look at things differently aka “creative divide” but both are so similar and play critical roles One thing I find to be diff and confusing with open source is that devs expect pull request of design changes. To me design is an intimate thing in understanding what devs want, what market wants - so I’m sure how it can be a standalone effort
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pam 2 years ago
* not sure Darn typos :)
Code design advice would also be useful. Like design patterns for modularity and interoperability with other apps and services. Best practices for a FOSS project design with multiple contributions.