Neither Nostr itself, nor client are services, but are tools; and this is perhaps a subtle but important difference with the legacy web/platforms. I think a lot/most users would benefit from being explicitly aware of that fact. Currently its something they might slowly get aware off the moment they start using more than 1 client, but i am not sure if it actually sinks in. Nostr really is not that complicated, it is just different. The whole paradigm of creating a publication, providing it with a signature and depositing it in places others can retrieve it, is something most humans can comprehend. Mostly because there is no abstraction, it IS the analogy. The fate of introducing a new paradigm is that ''onboarding'' means doing two things; getting people to use apps, post things, be social etc. on the one hand; but also understanding the landscape itself on the other. In the long run I think people are better off when they grasp the landscape/paradigm, because it immediately makes them less helpless and more confident in using the tools and navigating the terrain. Opening the new version of vnak made me wonder if it really takes more than an (guided) hour, or two, to give people a minimal viable understanding. For instance the ability to just hand-craft various types of events, provides a ''naked'' nostr experience that would demystify the interaction they have with clients. You only really need to do it once, and have a look at the JSON for a bit, to make it click that all a client does is make it easy for you to create publications and provide a nice viewing experience. Handpicking relays once, should make it clear that clients are nice enough to handle all that stuff for you in the background. Combine this with another (guided) session where people play around with for an hour, and i am sure they start to UNDERSTAND that platforms held them hostage; im am sure they start to UNDERSTAND Nostr means liberation. image

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I'm a big fan of a dual choice approach for subtly exposing this concept, since its impossible to sit everyone down for 2 hours. Making things "easy" and familiar not only overcomplicates things in the long run, it also creates an (eventual) unwieldy mess for the user and slows down the natural learning process. (Maybe you already gathered my opinion about that, from my rant over media posting, not too many days ago; you seem pretty smart. But I wanted to share it anyway ๐Ÿ˜…)
Is it impossible to sit everyone down for two hours? We sit down entire generations 5 days a week for many hours a day for many years on end on a consistent basis for a long time now. Im making a general/abstract statement. I agree that NOW, and into relevant future, such 'sit people down' infrastructe does not exist; but insofar the practical is concerned it could be a youtube tutorial or the setup of an online course. All im trying to point out is that i think that exposing people to "naked nostr", even just for a moment, could be helpfull; that instead of it confusing people, it actually clears things up.
nostr deep down in dark mode you have to learn the tricks but those tricks make you dependent on those tools, when more tools are available and a common thought emerges then you can use that tool to learn
I agree, I just wanted to highlight that it's totally possible to expose parts that help in understanding the whole.
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Havok 2 weeks ago
Well on the way to "liberation". Initial setup and account/profile creation is a breeze, figuring out the nsec bunker/extension portions, notsomuch. That said docs are good and finding the information to complete is very easy, just not a breeze. Now I have to figure out which of the apps I enjoy using, Yakihonne is where I keep coming back to, although Coracle is good too, not certain on Primal so far and more to try. This is fun stuff though.
Aaaah Havok, there you are! Well the moment you have a bunker set up and know how to use different apps you are well on your way already. Any prevered thing/link you want me to shout out? Just tell me and i will give you a holler to get some connections going.
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Havok 2 weeks ago
I mentioned you in the release of the podcast featuring, well... you. Although I don't have my Fountain.fm setup quite yet, I will soon and will also cease posting the "others" on Nostr. Thank you for the introduction and dive into Nostr concepts, and for the conversation.
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