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Had some issues with notifications. Video call worked perfect.

Solid, IMO, SimpleX is still the better choice, but the fact that Keet Chat is serverless 100% is quite appealing. SimpleX uses relayers, your metadata is sent to relayers and, after is received, the metadata is deleted, keetchat does not use relayers at all is 100% p2p and encrypted e2e. This seems quite appealing but it does add a reliability factor, your messages will stay in your device pinging the receiving party until delivery, this decreases efficiency and could be a negative factor in battery consumption, more test is required.

Yeah I noticed Keet is a bit strange with deliverability, I have experienced sent messages disappear later. It takes quite a while for it to ramp up the connections after opening the app. Still very interesting concept. Also noticed when attempting to join a group nothing would happen until at least one of the group members came online. In a way I kinda like this, even though that probably isn't the end goal of this chat :)

Some issues? Did they get resolved? I think the app, at least on android doesnt stay alive in the background...

remember to go to the settings and change the battery setting to "unrestricted", this will guarantee usage in the background. In Mobile Data, verify as well that background usage is allowed

Its a security risk, you don't want everyone to have your IP. Thats not private as its location trackable without a VPN and it also opens you up to DDoS attacks. Makes more sense to use something like Session if you value something decentral. With session you have all their coin miners be the relay and its as private as it gets. Or if you dont mind it being more centralized and don't mind giving metadata up Element combined with stuff like unredacted.org as the server.

I see your point, but one could argue that showing your IP to peers (your chat contacts) isnt such a big deal. Or even to all the peers, as long as the content is encrypted. I tried session a few times, but often had connectivity issues. The deal breaker with session right now is the group functionality, you can't generate an invite link, you can only add people manually - which sucks for onboarding. There are communities, but someone has to host a server and that part is a bit more complex and if I understand correctly the community runs over https directly to the person hosting it, bypassing the relay network ( I might be wrong on this?)

Just bugs since v4 most of which have now been fixed

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They have just started experimenting with waking the app up in the background, previously it has always slept to reduce battery use

Most messengers make direct IP connections via calls, yout ips and data are also centrally relayed for monitoring, where as keet is completely decentralized and can still relay via other peers protecting your ip