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For a year now I've been saying need more information on relays, otherwise we'll go back to my spaghetti analogy from last year
@Cameri🐦🔥 😂
been asking the same as a normie
don't get why i would pay for any of them, because i don't see what i get for it really
Perhaps:
They're all buckets, but some have different faucets. Both damus and nos run on strfry, so they generally have the same faucets.
There's my attempt for a metaphor 🙃
Choosing a relay shouldn’t be deeper than that.
You get a cool wine glass icon from wine. That's the only reason I paid for it
Beautiful
actual story of me onboarding somebody:
them: "what are relays?"
me: "uhhhh, don't worry about it"
Good analogy. It seems like any measure a relay is meaningless
I p much had no idea why I was adding relays when I joined, I assumed they were gonna give me different stuff. Took me ages to find I I shouldn't have bothered.
It wasn't that long ago that I saw a relay with an actual use. I forgot the name but it's a Christian topic -based relay.
Same with nip05 really lol
True, users shouldn't have to think about it. But I'm a dev and I want to know, and the issue is I can't figure out what makes different. Or even where to start looking
We just need more insight. Nostr.watch is great, but I'd like region, hardware stats, and note retention policies listed.
yes, this
also, as a foreigner
i have zero idea what the word relay even means.
so if anything, we should repackage the concept under another word, and simplify it.
or, simplify the inputs and outputs, and keep it a magical black box that the user shouldn't worry about
you pay because you believe in bitcoin and therefore a sucker
thank you for my daily dose of nonsense
Yeah, but I just mean it's a bit of a faff for an onboardee, they don't need to bother, best imo to jump in and figure out if it's necessary and how to do it later
you're gonna use 99.9% of normies with that
i just want to post memes and shitpost, i couldn't care less, i just want to see my frens posts and be sure that my frens see mine
lose* not use
(This wasn't a joke btw lol 🌝)
Word
wait what
you do 👀
Nobody cares how it works as long it works (most of the time)
Nostr is like the supermarket supply chain, and I don’t give a shit how that supply chain works as long as the supermarket (Damus, Amethyst, etc.) has stock.
This is how most people think (or don’t think) about social media
This makes sense for why I should care about the current relays I'm using. but what could I possibly find interesting in other relays?
I can also go into the warehouse and dig around in the notes but then I mostly just find the same old notes I've read on other relays. is there a way to find more interesting stuff? I mean its got to be there right? its a whole warehouse of random notes
Until the toilet paper runs out
thank you for the March 13, 2020 PTSD
It's almost 2024 and we still don't have a good way to differentiate relays.
There is someone coming to
@Sovereign Engineering that I hope will take on this 😀
👀
2020 made the world really shitty… that’s my only explanation
awesome, hopefully they can teach me more about relays.
The main reason relays kind of suck in noStrudel right now is because I still don't really know what they are or how I could explore them
that's the thing... 😅
i disagree. NOSTR users are not normal users and shouldn't be. thought leadership isn't for everybody. users SHOULD think about it.
perhaps require every note to have three tags ( example tags: TND, TKD, BTC, Anime, Loli, Gaming, Dev, Censorship, NOSTR, Twitter ) entered by the user.
let the system try to use the tags to put like minded users on same relays, but also put entire threads on the same relay as well regardless of who was posting what as long as it is in the same thread ...
and also federate or something so that people on different relays still can talk to each other, but with perhaps a bit of overhead ...
and for community users the community name is the tag ...
@fiatjafapples are commodities
Postgres lover
I agree with the first part. I think most users on nostr are not normal and would all in be interested in more details and stats on relays.
I want to see all the details / stats about a relay, but I just don't know where to start looking
I think your right, but there is still a part of me that wants tools to go digging around in the postgres database to maybe find something interesting
right, the only idea is to show the feed of kind 1 notes from a relay. but filter out the people you follow. probably would just end up with spam though... 🤔
*the only idea i have
Gotta switch things up
@note10vt2m6c300ctvn09yzkkvj0qh0563vqkhj0mdjmt3fn38yg9tl6qewdjyq
Something like?
Yeah that’s kind of what I was getting at 😂 no one care as long as it works, if it doesn’t then they will go somewhere else if at all possible
ChatGPT / LLM type tech could probably be effective in grouping people into relays. it should be easy to identify Bitcoiners, Nazis etc.
take the 10 most prominent members of each group, train the model on them and it will find all the other group members. then put them all on same relay.
or for a more sophisticated system it would be able to define groups by itself. maybe you would end up getting grouped based on your IQ or age rather than your interests or politics.
there are billions of people but our brains are wired for a social circle of only about 100 people and that is reflected in the patterns of people following each other online. we need to mirror this in how relays work and LLMs can automate this and make it efficient.
When i look at relays in Damus, it lists which NIPs are supported by each. Maybe clients could listed relays "features" (aka supported NIPs) and selecting one will filtwr and display only those
I've wanted a sort of minus function for relays. Like if I want to add a relay, I want to see which notes are seen only in the new relay... To sort of gauge who's posting and what is the general vibe. But even if it's one-time I think that's too much effort for most users 😅
