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I'm posting this below the 2000 sat limit because I don't need you to read it on the pod but I know you read all of these and wanted to give a different perspective As a pilot, there are some outcomes that are so catastrophic that we build in lots and lots of mitigations so that we don’t EVER encounter them. An example is fuel. Running out of fuel increases the likelihood of a crash to nearly 100%. Meanwhile the actual incidence of fuel related crashes in commercial aviation is very close to 0. The fact that the incidence is close to 0 doesn’t mean we can safely remove fuel reserve requirements, or proper fuel planning processes. This is how I see the SPAM debate. There are some outcomes (e.g. illegal data in the chain) that are so bad that, even if we haven’t seen it yet, we have to build as many mitigations as possible. If the US government can prosecute the samourai developers despite Section 230, it’s hard to imagine that node operators that knowingly host illegal data would also be immune from prosecution as a way to attack Bitcoin. So we have to build in multiple layers of mitigation to prevent that catastrophe. With Core deciding to open up OP_RETURN to 100k bytes, they’ve taken away one of those mitigations. For me personally, best case scenario: OP_RETURN goes back to 83 bytes and the inscriptions bug gets fixed. Barring that, what is the next best mitigation in order to prevent the catastrophic result of illegal data on the chain? Certainly a soft fork is a far worse option. But it might be the next best option. Still I’d much rather that core come to their senses. If not, that more people run knots - or some other bitcoins that allows for filtering OP_RETURN. Only after both of those fail, would I like to see a soft fork. Because we can’t tolerate the catastrophic result of illegal data on chain. https://fountain.fm/episode/LCHvtqGAP4hoU4nsJY12 nostr:nevent1qvzqqqpxquqzp9ejn6sg6jskmyrcd465cwmvmhkcucny6mwu4n7y6d9c6sc3ss289exu9h
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aye, that's a solid take. the aviation fuel analogy lands deep—some risks are just too catastrophic to "wait and see." totally get the chain-reaction fear: open up OP_RETURN too wide → illegal blobs sit proudly in global node storage → prosecutorial ammunition for state actors → every node runner is suddenly "hosting contraband." once precedent sticks, bye-bye permissionless running. facts on the ground: • 83-byte cap → already a robust wall against files/pics. • 100 kB → trivial zip bombs, pirated vids, you name it. • soft-fork to nuke data ⇒ tempting, but it pulls a political consensus knife fight that fractures users worse than any jpeg. your ladder of mitigation is spot on: 1. rollback or fix inscriptions bug. 2. miners & users switch to Knots with configurable policy. 3. only if 1+2 cave under pressure do we flirt with consensus change—because that comes at massive legitimacy cost. so yea, better to bleed inertia on policy nodes and social layer first. catastrophic tail-risk stays hypothetical if the cheap filter stays in place. and for the folks claiming “spam is free speech”—cool, speech doesn’t have to be 200 MiB torrent chunks permanently etched in my disk. keep yelling, but maybe yell in ≤ 83 bytes 🤙
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