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1, 2, 3...loud and clear
Mic check one two
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It worked 🫂🫂
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Primal wouldn't let me post a previously typed out note with tags in it. Odd.
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Primal's got issues.
lit the fire!
Primal wants to KYC me to open a wallet. 
Here's a secret. Fill out bogus information. Choose a real email address though.
Here's another secret,
Don't use primal wallet.
Not everyone fits in that role though. New Nostriches just want to Zap without having to run a node.
Fair enough,
NWC + Mutiny ftw
Idiot
The problem with Mutiny for new users is telling someone if they want to receive a few pennies they need to go install another app, buy $50 of bitcoin, and send it to themselves first. It's really confusing and hard to explain if someone just wants to send and receive zaps to get started on Nostr. Mutiny is great for existing Bitcoiners IMO.
The problem with onboarding noobs with primal though is that there is a direct KYC connection to their npub. I can’t believe people promote primal as a client for onboarding knowing this, it’s entirely antithetical to the notion of “freedom tech”
I would gladly be proven wrong. “It can be bypassed” doesn’t count though, we’re talking about noobs here
NWC? I have a Mutiny wallet but it’s the connecting it to my Npub that isn’t clear. I use both Damus and Primal.
Yeah I know Derek you're right. I struggle with the notion of getting someone introduced to all these freedom techs only to tell them yeah you should just KYC so you can use it.
I did see your point regarding putting bogus info in so that's a workaround.
The issue is how to onboard a random new person that just wants to be social online and experience zaps without jumping through tons of hurdles.
ecash wins for this. @Minibits gives a new user a ln address and requires no kyc. Couple good shit notes and you got some zaps to give bck. No NWC, scripts, spoofing kyc, email or any of that shit. Just an npub and a minibits address. Users can jump natively into the nostr ecosystem and work down the stack, not up it.
Minibits is Android only, right? And it would need NWC to make seamless one tap to zap. Still telling people to download a second app to use the full potential of the first app is a bit confusing for some.
They are making the big centralize and censor push we were expecting
But every nostr client needs a wallet to use the feature.
npub.cash is a great option to use with Mcadamia or eNuts for ios users
Two apps and two taps is not the biggest deal to avoid kyc and a 30% apple tax.
I think wallets should stay separate from clients. The wallet has more use than just nostr. And allows the user to move to another client.
I'm hearing you and I 100% agree with you, but I also know that the average social media user won't do these things unless it all just works with zero friction. We need a happy medium here.
Entire sections of my family and friends think it’s retarded that we send half pennies to one another. I’ve been told “How is that different from just clicking like?”
Effectively, it isn’t.
Honestly the way we all used to swarm zap random waitresses and bartenders that someone talked into signing up for WoS was probably more effective at orange pilling someone because it added up to something substantial.
Pushing new users to feel like they need to sign up for zaps right off the rip, before they have had a chance to learn about BTC may be a mistake, and may contribute to the “crypto project” status Nostr has in some circles. Wouldn’t it be better to focus on new users finding people to follow and pick relays? Isn’t that enough to contend with?
Just thinking out loud.
If the goal is switching instagram or tik tok users client tools and upload sizes need to increase. Is making a video more important than sending a zap? Mutiny has a choose fedi option. Perhaps clients could offer a choose wallet section based on questions and have nwc integrate the choice.
I would say the goal is general onboarding, but if we want retention then we need content and being able to have creators paid is important.
You need to use Nostr Wallet Connect. Primal on iOS may not allow this, but Damus does support Nostr Wallet Connect.