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ihsotas 2 months ago
My point was the filters work at some point in time to change some small behaviors, but ultimately it’s economic pressure that determines the long term out come. what is a dozen years to lifespan of the time chain? Am I mistaken in thinking we would rather have all the garbage in op return vs elsewhere. If filters drive spammers to pollute other parts of the chain can you actually claim that filters have worked? If people want larger and cheap data storage currently it is my understanding that they wrap data in taproot scripts because the size limits are much larger and the witness discount makes it much cheaper. So is it really op return filtering or is it the economics of taproot that is at issue? I’m just curious why all the attention is on op return when there are currently higher limit lower fee data storage options.

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Super Testnet 2 months ago
> Am I mistaken in thinking we would rather have all the garbage in op return vs elsewhere I don't agree with that. I don't want them to use bitcoin's blockchain to store their spam at all. If the choice *was* "op_return or elsewhere," I would choose "elsewhere," and by it I would mean "somewhere that isn't bitcoin's blockchain." But in fact spammers have another choice: don't post spam anywhere at all. That is the outcome I prefer. > If filters drive spammers to pollute other parts of the chain can you actually claim that filters have worked? This is the fallacy of false dichotomy. You act as if spammers have only two choices: spam op_returns or spam more harmful places. But they have another choice: don't post spam on bitcoin at all. > If people want larger and cheap data storage currently it is my understanding that they wrap data in taproot scripts because the size limits are much larger and the witness discount makes it much cheaper For values larger than ~153 bytes, yes. But for values lower than that, inscriptions cost more because they require two transactions: the commit tx and the reveal tx. Whereas op_returns only require 1 transaction.
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Jeff Swann 2 months ago
There is another option, malicious actors will spam in every way they can, so opening another door only invites more unwanted spam in total. Old spammers keep using old ways & new spammers come to use the new path. It's like the devs see trash in the park & so they decide the park should just serve as a dump.