They're protesting because they're losing and they're pissed off. If there was actually substantial opposition to killing Jews Oct 7th wouldn't have happened. _Hamas_ doesn't even claim that "tens of thousands" of woman and children non-combatants have been killed: Even Hamas claims that the deaths are 72% males aged 13 to 55. That's not killing woman and children indiscriminately. That's killing combatants. Meanwhile hundreds of IDF soldiers have given their lives in the fighting since Oct 7th. Those men and woman simply wouldn't be dead if Israel was actually bombing Gaza indiscriminately. They died because Israel is trying it's best to only kill combatants. It's a miracle that so few civilians have died given that Hamas is quite happy to fight in the middle of them, even putting military forces in active hospitals. The fact is, those deaths were a waste. Israel should have indiscriminately leveled Gaza from the air – as is their right – and not sent any soldiers into Gaza. There's nothing Israel can do to get people like you on their side, who are ultimately anti-Semitics who don't really think Israel deserves to live in peace and would rather support perpetual victims. Israel might as well get peace by force. In this case, it's not hard: Gazan society is such a mess they'll wipe out themselves given the chance.

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Let’s not conflate. I am against the current policies of the crazy Netanyahu government, not against “Israel” or the Israeli people or “Jews” (I am partly Jewish myself and have relatives who survived the Holocaust) Judaism is a multi-thousand year old anti-fragile religion, and Netanyahu’s crazy war is only two years old. Judaism will outlive this madness. And neither Netanyahu nor the ultra religious crazies that are part of his government have a claim to Judaism. I am also pro Palestine, but anti Hamas and anti Islamic extremism. Maybe these don’t square for you but they square for me and plenty of others.
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S!ayer 7 months ago
Apparently, according to Peter, if all Gazans are responsible for their government then all Israelis are responsible for theirs.
That's not a response to anything I actually said. That's a deflection. The fact is you're perpetrating lies about Israel and you don't have a response. Also, I gotta say this is really fucked up: Not unlike this situation: in both cases the wrongful party is being rehabilitated in some fucked up notion of "peace" and "diplomacy", when the only solution that is working is military defeat.
Jewish and Christian extremism is MUCH MORE dangerous but you NEVER mention it do you? Millions and millions more died at the hands of Jews and Christians than at the hands of Muslims.
This does not say "the deaths are 72% males aged 13 to 55" as you said in exact words while posting the link image Why do people still take you seriously while you lie so blatantly and while you mute people like me?
You can’t seriously compare elected religious politicians in Israel to Islamic extremists. If secularism has a blind spot, it’s the tendency toward false symmetry and oversimplification. This kind of thinking is what gives rise to ideologies like socialism (where unequal pay is automatically seen as a result of unequal rights) and nihilism. Islamic extremists pose a far greater threat to Western pluralism, liberal values, and to non-Muslim minorities living in Muslim-majority countries, than any religious leader in Israel ever has. The Israeli democracy has the power to withdraw from territories - as we did in 2005, naively believing the Palestinians would change - and the right-wing religious leadership in Israel ultimately respects that decision. They place the will of the people above their own beliefs. You don’t see that kind of submission to religious pluralism and to the people's will in the radical Islamic world - from Iran to Pakistan.