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as an amateur cryptographer, this anti-nip-04 thing is completely nonsensical chacha-poly-1080 in not stronger than AES 256 ... what is it CBC? ... no, AEAD... with no actual extra data btw, so it was pointless making it that anyway the giftwrapping enables some degree of forward privacy but it also makes it complicated for clients to see messages the user wrote, and i notice this all the time clients are not seeing the messages after making my relay really nice and easy to extend and work with one of my first priorities is making messaging work properly like, seriously, do people not get it the reason why i am always talking about nip-42 auth all the time is so you can prevent access to these messages in the first place? the right way to do things is to test and certify that relays are not allowing access to events they don't have proof of being in the conversation it also applies to application specific data events too, which are encrypted, by some clients, but not by others (looking at you #nostrudel )