Animals, including humans, ARE sentient creatures that should not be unnecessarily harmed, modern society is the root source of the overwhelming majority of both animal suffering, largely stemming from modern agriculture practices and their consequences (including factory farming, mass fishing, monoculture farming, and the civilizations, technologies , and environmental destruction developed around them). But veganism, as a movement, upholds the overwhelming majority of the harms of modernity and simultaneously instills false hope for a reformist future. This isn't inherent to the act of abstaining from animal products, but is deeply instilled in the mainstream vegan advocacy which is filled with corporate greenwashing and largely advocates around the message "Nothing really has to change! Being vegan is easy! Look at all our products you can buy!". The root solution is to abolish modernity through any means necessary, including either a return to more primitive ways (likely via "apocalypse") OR the potential development of a post-modern solar future. The former would likely result in a huge amount of suffering to achieve but, from a negative utilitarian view, may ultimately be worth it. The former could be possible via global revolution, but will need to work well beyond the lone vegan movement to facilitate the level of societal changes needed to undo the harms of modernity and the vegan movement has been excellent at alienating potential allies in this fight and getting in it's own way.