Too bad Primal doesn't Nostr properly, or have media servers that deliver.
Login to reply
Replies (20)
Getting people to set up a wallet, signer, and a client, and potentially different options on each OS, is not going to be attractive to new users. Primal has issues but getting people to Nostr is probably the hardest part, and this was the simplest onboard process I've found.
Wallets aren't required, and people are familiar with password managers.
It may seem like a great path until Primal users find out:
- People are not seeing their videos or images
- People are reacting in many ways, but Primal users only see a heart (and don't see a count, apparently)
- Replies to replies are hidden from Primal users, making a concept of threads (from 30 years ago), not available.
- All notes are being routed through a centralized relay, removing one of the largest benefits of Nostr
Yup
Does this mark the failure of nostr as an experiment?
Does what exactly?
Do you mean that utilising Primal is the simplest onboarding solution that I've found?
we're kind of living in clawd bot hell, is what i mean
Haven't delved into that yet. I'm just a simple musician trying to escape censorship and control platforms. Nostr, Bitcoin and the ValueVerse are all quite new concepts to me.
i dunno about you but i am getting a lot of automated bots in my replies these days
I'm not getting any. Do you want wot on your relay?
I just raised the WOT on jumble and they're gone. i dunno if the hive nostr1 relay is still being used but yeah sure go ahead and add WOT. if its being used it will be for demo stuff only. All of my other relays on hivetalk.org are running strict nostr.json only write-ability lists so no spam there. Its only the big public relays that have carry the bot spam. The thing is I lowered my WOT to near zero because I wanted to discovr more users but now it seems like we're gonna become more silo'd b/c of clawd to death. 🤣
always has been. ok ill add baseline wot to it. thank me later 🌝
o wait, actually its just a pubkey list already 🤔 402 allowed and no comments so ... its not coming from there 🦅
these 3 relays are wide open to comment spam, is why you will see it. it's a funnel.. (everything but swarm)
Not too many. But honestly, devs, vibe coders and Bitcoiners must account for 90% of Nostr - they already speak a different language to me so differentiating bots is somewhat challenging lol
yea my bad for using the 3 big ones still.
clients seem to want you to limit the relays to 4
and then you get no reach if you only use the smaller ones
then people complain they never saw your note unless it went to a big one
I dunno what to say :\
here's the thing - if you are onboarding a n00b, they are gonna be on one of the big three. and no WOT. and a F ton of comment spam. so how do you get around this problem? if they don't already have a community built around them?
my hot take: most active nostr folks are high agency get shit done folks.
the ones who don't join nostr are probably doomscrolling or are milking their infloooencor status on legacy media.
the astro signs have already spoken, social media inflooocencors die in 2026.
End of an era 2011-2025
In the age of chaos - 2026-2027 - the forecasts say don't waste time with low agency and neither should you :D
you buy them an invite with ⚡and set their relays
As Nostr becomes more mature and more accessible, does it devalue in your eyes?
Because you will likely see more users with lower agency and get-shit-done-ness.
it might turn into a lot of decentralized silos.