Brainstorming! Objectives: Reduce dependency on traditional domains across my Nostr web app. Why: Traditional domains are centralized and controlled by governments. Not ideal for freedom tools/apps. Idea: Create a lightweight static website called "NostrHub," which will serve as a quick-access hub to all my other Nostr web apps. Plan: 1. First Step: Host the lightweight NostrHub website on Nostr relays and IPFS, making it accessible through TOR, IPFS gateways, Freenet, and other decentralized storage or P2P access options. 2. Second Step (my favorite, though a bit unorthodox): Convert the NostrHub website/code into an offline bundle that can be shared as a zip file. When unzipped and clicked, this bundle will open the NostrHub page in your browser, running locally without relying on domains or web hostingโ€”essentially self-hosted. The offline website bundle also addresses a more fundamental issue with the web ecosystem. Unlike traditional websites, offline bundled sites canโ€™t be unilaterally changed or modified by the developer, making them trustless and truly giving users full control over the website, its code, and any updates. This approach will eliminate the single point of failure posed by centralized domains, make all apps easily accessible, and provide users with a more private way to access them. This is a rough outline. Suggestions for improvements are welcome!
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Web-based 'Freedom Tools' can't rely on centralized, government-controlled domain registrars. Domains not only serve as a single point of failure but also open up significant attack vectors, especially if the state is involved. I want to take this opportunity to create a solution that mitigates this issue. This will be my new project, I will share more details soon. View quoted note โ†’
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So far Achieved: Unified dashboard for all my Nostr apps. In progress: Reducing domain dependency. Added: Quick shortcuts for Nostr backups, publishing notes & blogs, and accessing zPay.live purchases. image
iefan ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธ's avatar iefan ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธ
Brainstorming! Objectives: Reduce dependency on traditional domains across my Nostr web app. Why: Traditional domains are centralized and controlled by governments. Not ideal for freedom tools/apps. Idea: Create a lightweight static website called "NostrHub," which will serve as a quick-access hub to all my other Nostr web apps. Plan: 1. First Step: Host the lightweight NostrHub website on Nostr relays and IPFS, making it accessible through TOR, IPFS gateways, Freenet, and other decentralized storage or P2P access options. 2. Second Step (my favorite, though a bit unorthodox): Convert the NostrHub website/code into an offline bundle that can be shared as a zip file. When unzipped and clicked, this bundle will open the NostrHub page in your browser, running locally without relying on domains or web hostingโ€”essentially self-hosted. The offline website bundle also addresses a more fundamental issue with the web ecosystem. Unlike traditional websites, offline bundled sites canโ€™t be unilaterally changed or modified by the developer, making them trustless and truly giving users full control over the website, its code, and any updates. This approach will eliminate the single point of failure posed by centralized domains, make all apps easily accessible, and provide users with a more private way to access them. This is a rough outline. Suggestions for improvements are welcome! View quoted note โ†’
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The first prototype of zap.store ever featured something like this, @hzrd149 packaged the nostrudel PWA into a .pwa file that we assigned the application/pwa+zip mime type to (offline bundle). This "pwa" would then be deployed and served locally. Plan to put that back! Maybe we can work on an interoperable standard?
Agreed! Implementation not really. But it's so simple, pretty much what I described is what we got working
Thanks, I think this might be it. I tested some other Nostr web hostings, & this one is by far the best. It's super straightforward & effectively mitigates the fundamental issues. Interestingly, I was open to all types of options, even outside Nostr. I tested dozens so far, and Nostr is literally the best option I've found. We really might be onto something. Demo: https://nostr.download/d025c2ee6291ccf396c8d01582b6d700c41e20b53552d06b7fefb86aae6c81d7
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