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The people who hate on what you build are always going to be a lot louder than the people who appreciate it. You just gotta have thick skin and keep building.
Absofuckinglutly true!
Having conversation in if disaccord and to build instead of havinf discussions, naming names and so on, is what will make #nostr thrive and people stay.
Leave the drama part on X..
Discuss things in the open, but never argue?
will’s anti-primal post is quite perplexing.
Disagreeing without vitriol makes everyone stronger. People can be blind to flaws if they are incentivized not to see them. Division is when someone speaks truth and someone denies it. The truth doesn't compromise with deceit.
There are major differences between discussions seeking solutions and arguing in circles.
So if I point out that someone is being shady, and someone disagrees, I should shut up?
Much better than hoe I was saying it.
Tldr don't be a dick.
True…! Same thought…
and another thought: It probably has to do with how they all nourish themselves. Aggression doesn't come from nowhere!
We'll never agree. And that's a good thing. That's the Nostr immune system at work. When diseases try to slip in, it reacts.
And: We're already building. One thing doesn't rule out the other.
Fuckin-A, LFG!
Sounds like a plan
Decentralization isn't an easy path.
There are always shortcuts that promise faster results, easier growth, or less friction.
But the real question is: if a shortcut gets you there, did you truly arrive at the destination you were aiming for?
In the end, the only thing we can do is keep building with patience. Invest the time. Do the hard work. See the shortcuts, understand them, and still choose the longer road when it leads to something more real.
It may look slow. It may even look foolish.
But the outcomes earned that way tend to be far more authentic, resilient, and true.
It’s the fighting and arguing that inspire others to do better. It pushes the protocol, the relays, the developers, the the designers to find better solutions.
Dad just broke up the fight. Thanks Dad.
Discussions are more productive than fighting.
Many factions many fights. It just shows it’s maturing 🤣. It’s like what happened and is happening with Bitcoin all the time. The fighting is the discussion.
I personally don’t mind it too much although agree it’s in poor taste and not the most productive, but it’s what we got and that’s better than nothing.
Dozens of us have our whole identity wrapped around this protocol. Ok to show some irrational passion every other week.
"Decentralization’s difficulty mirrors geopolitics—hard problems demand alignment, not infighting. Read a piece on Ukraine where the US VP acknowledged the ‘hardest’ solutions often require unity against external pressures, not internal fractures. Same applies here."
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unless they're Monero people.
fuck those guys.
unironically I'll share this quote " The team that pulls together, can stand proudly apart". Anon.
It seems to me that we have no choice but to wait until the mainstream media makes mistakes and people learn from them, hard way.
Decentralization is hard when you don't know what you are doing and refuse to examine where the design has failed, or acknowledge whether anyone is being helped at all.
True
Arguing is part of it. Just be civil when you argue, cunt
Not surprising at all...
Most effort by far goes into centralizing things.
For many cases centralizing has favorable aspects.
For a few things decentralizing is the only solution.
Most things that improve by centralizing are nice to have.
The few things that need decentralization are essential to humans and freedom.
Pffff......
Keep Going dear souls !!!!!!! 💚💫🫶🙏😍✌️
Decentralization *is* hard—especially when coordination fractures under ideological divides. Reminds me of an article on Ukraine’s war effort: sometimes the hardest path (diplomacy, consensus) is the only viable one long-term. Parallels to infighting in decentralized ecosystems.
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> We have enough problems trying to change the world and enough adversaries already. We don't need to make ones in our own ecosystem.
I completely disagree with this attitude. It is most important to eradicate internal enemies first. If you are in a room with an enemy and a traitor and you have 2 bullets, you put two in the traitor to make sure he is dead.
We don't have any devs that are enemies and I would never consider any of them as such.
I think assuming good faith for people who engage in centralization and censorship is naive and dangerous, particularly when they’ve managed to sponge up the vast majority of Nostr-earmarked capital and then put out something which is not a Nostr client at all, but a proprietary service which happens to irreliably and censoriously scrape data from Nostr.
i often do think in good faith. ill let people show me who they are before i make a decision.
People complaining about seeing spam scams and csam on hashtag feeds are no just complaining and fighting for the sake of it.
It's really not that hard or complicated from what I can understand, new users check the hashtags and delete whichever app it was because not one app actually has hashtag moderation.
Primal are censoring people for speaking out against the csam...
"Please moderate the hashtags the first thing new users see when they get on here is csam and scammers"
Somehow statements like that get you censored and hidden from primal users.
While the scammers and pedos continue spamming hashtags.
No, calling out primal for censoring people's speech while they're also refusing to censor csam and scammers is not perplexing.
Being loyal to pedophiles who censor all criticism is perplexing.
