well, yes. but they're still going to exist, and that's okay. the problem isn't "centralized services that use nostr data", it's that primal is one and it dominates the marketshare, therefore the most common nostr experience is centralized this is a similar problem to the most common bitcoin experience being custodial, and the answer isn't "lecture people on why that's bad", it's to build better distributed tools. this is why i have spent significant time and energy on bitcoindeposits.net analogously, the solution is probably to make self hosted options like iris.to better. to build distributed caching relays. etc. the problem is that building these costs money, and money likes centralization and defends itself, and so funds things in line with its interests, like primal and spark there are no good answers here. funding open source has always been miserable. a long time ago i had the opportunity to ask stallman about this, and his reply was that how the software gets built wasn't his problem. at the individual level it's true, but it doesn't solve the problem