No thanks.
I'll stick to v29.
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Your terms are acceptable.
They will be pushing the evil changes into version 29 if you ever update that. You should not run or trust anything from core again if you have the option
Your days are numbered
Apparently, and unfortunately, it looks like many of your nostr followers have gone bitcoin woke, mustering mostly emotional reactions and reciting spoon-fed narratives. Im seeing this everywhere, unfortunately.
I'd love to see a thoughtful discussion between you and Samson about the topic. Might help bridge the divide.
Or maybe Samson and Greg since they have had a working relationship dating back ages (a decade iirc).
This whole thing reminds me a bit of the block size wars. Many getting caught up in emotional and irrational vilification and even hysteria instead of thoughtful and respectful discussion over differences of opinion on complex technical matters including game theory, which is likely too complex for most (including me) to wrap their heads around.
There also seems to be a fair amount of confusion over default settings vs. removed options. I'd think at the least such a discussion could clear some of that up.
My 2c fwiw.
I should have tagged @npub1exce...n72a.
How exactly would that be done ("pushing the changes into 29")? If you can't explain how or have not done the research on whether that's even possible, now would be a good time to reflect on the possibility you might be propagandized and are reacting emotionally to a difference of opinion and approach to very complex technical matters.
You owe to yourself and your followers to at least do some basic research before spreading more hysteria. We need more rational voices, not inflamation and vilificiation.
Lots of bots.
Also plenty of scared brainwashed plebs.
the csam argument is obviously rediculous
but I've yet to talk to any node runner who likes the idea of 100kb op_returns filling up blocks. even folks who hate Luke.
That's odd, the rational node runner should desire massive OP_RETURNs because it would cut the effective maximum block size by 75% and make running a node less resource intensive.
and confirm 1 tx per block
e por que não usam doge pra essa sujeira ? E congelem o código do #btcoin ? !!!
Let's be honest, practically nobody transacts on chain.
If they did, fees for block space wouldn't be at historic lows.
and that's what this is all about: artificially filling blocks to enrich miners.
I don't mind them. I just updated to v30
Vic is a shill confirmed. we're going back to Nests.
was that motte and bailey or shifting the goal posts?
KNOTS PPL DONT NEED BOTS, QUIT PROJECTING. ALSO, THIS IS THE SAME REALITY IN WHICH YOU THINK THAT THE RAT'S NEST ON YOUR FACE LOOKS GOOD RIGHT
You just instantly devolved a technical discussion into comments on personal appearance. Probably time to take a break and ensure your opinion is more than an emotional response and is actually based in reality.
If you bring insults instead of arguments you are not helping.
It's hard to manage changes, updates, security patches etc. on a 24/7 decentralized monetary network. Litecoin was used during the block size wars to help test LN and it's required changes. Your point is not wrong, but it's no trivial task.
My advice is to try to stay calm and not assume long time contributors to bitcoin are bad actors. Don't trust, verify - yes, but that doesn't mean to assume any change is a conspiracy.
We can run any node software we want and shouldn't be assumed to be bad actors. Choice is good and multiple implementations is positive. I think we just need to stop short of confidently assigning negative motivations to people who have been doing amazing work for years.
Open and respectful discussion between people who understand all these dynamics is what's needed. Not emotional libelous flame wars.
"Everyone who disagrees with me is a shill!"
Is this really the level you want to operate at? Ask more of yourself. It will produce better outcomes.
Where is my spoon-fed narrative?
Yes. Cultists always blame it on bots and brainwashed plebs.
I'd love a good and honest debate without all the empty rhetoric.
For now I'm in the camp that none of these changes were necessary and everyone is pushing their own personal agendas.
Yeah, that one didn't make sense. Can't force anything into a version I'm already running and unwilling to change.
Ruim mesmo será quando tentarmos fazer uma transação on-chain, e pagarmos mais de 30% de taxa devido a tanta sujeira futura executando nos blocos, isso deve ser desestimulado, recorde-se do exemplo ultimo halvin, onde aqueles que queria usar o #bitcoin como dinheiro naquele período não conseguiram devido a taxas elevadas, mesmo que por algum momento perdeu a sua essência, quando mais permitimos mudanças fora da essência do #bitcoin pior ele ficará, ou voltaremos logo ao bitcoin cash ?
I just found a great video you might be interested in. This guy does an excellent job of digging into the technical details and then the larger issue, the toxicity of the debate. I highly recommend it. Also, watch it and then read the comments and notice that despite his clear attempt to be as impartial as seems possible, he gets flamed by tribal dimwits that just want to cheer for their own team, villify their opposition while dismissing logic and reason.
The tribalism is the biggest problem.
And both sides are guilty.
It makes it more difficult to separate the facts from the BS. It reduces the trust factor significantly.