The initial conversation was about nations. I said bad governance is not an argument against nations. Don’t twist my words to try to make it seem like I’m defending bad governance. You claim that all governance is inherently evil, so I brought up examples that refute that. Totally, everyone knows the millions of college graduates applying for visas and citizenship are really after food stamps. Yes, people that refuse to be politically active and are dissatisfied with their nation should consider leaving. There’s nothing weak about that argument if you don’t conflate nations with governments. No, probably unlike you, I know politics matters, so I will seek to effect change through politics before considering moving to a foreign nation.