Actually a lot of people are leaving. The US has one of the highest rates of citizenship renunciation. “That should tell you all you need to know.” People are not coming here for freedom or economic opportunity. People are coming here for handouts: food stamps, cheap housing, cheap or free healthcare. The same people are trying to get into Canada and the UK. “If you don’t like it just leave” is a weak argument. Does the government own the land? Because that is what you are implying. This statement comes from brainwashed slaves not from free individuals. Also, do you like everything the government does? If you don’t then you should also leave 🤷‍♂️ Families, clubs, and companies are voluntary. If I choose not to engage in business with Walmart, they won’t come knocking on my door with guns and throw me in a cage.

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The initial conversation was about nations. I said bad governance is not an argument against nations. Don’t twist my words to try to make it seem like I’m defending bad governance. You claim that all governance is inherently evil, so I brought up examples that refute that. Totally, everyone knows the millions of college graduates applying for visas and citizenship are really after food stamps. Yes, people that refuse to be politically active and are dissatisfied with their nation should consider leaving. There’s nothing weak about that argument if you don’t conflate nations with governments. No, probably unlike you, I know politics matters, so I will seek to effect change through politics before considering moving to a foreign nation.