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SoapMiner 3 weeks ago
I don't need a politician to pass a "law" to use Bitcoin. I do it anyway.

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good, but we still need the majority politicians to change the laws so the normies won't be afraid of using Bitcoin. I mean do you want to sell your soaps to minority of Bitcoiners forever? or do you want to expand your soap empire to normies? I'm not a fan of politicians but unfortunately we need them as they hold the power.
Bitcoin is a tool for disobedience. If you’re waiting for permission from lawmakers to use it as you wish you’re doing it wrong. Get away from me!
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SoapMiner 3 weeks ago
Bitcoin only has always been my stance. Easy equation for me. When you make Bitcoin the only Medium of Exchange, you move the Overton Window. Thereby, changing the world. And the world needs change
yes, I'm not doubting it. You are changing the word but you aren't going to make any worthwhile money to build your empire and pass your empire to your children. I mean why would I buy your overpriced soap when I can just buy it way cheaper at Walmart.
What I meant was I can buy cheaper soap at Walmart. I see no reason to buy your soap other then the help support you and the Bitcoin network, but I play the game smart. I buy the cheapest stuff and keep saving my Bitcoin so eventually I can just start my own soap factory and leave you in the dirt.
What do you mean? I can buy both. I have a whole Bitcoin. Buy most people aren't as lucky as me to be able to afford such luxury. So you'll never be able to build an empire because you're stuck on the mindset that you don't need politicians.
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SoapMiner 3 weeks ago
Just the way they use language. Way too formal.
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SoapMiner 3 weeks ago
We can shut em all down, and the world would exist perfectly
well I'm gonna go shower with my soapminer grassfed tallow cedar soap now
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Moist 3 weeks ago
2 things. Not everyone is motivated by money and building an empire. that sort of idiotic thinking has greatly damaged society. why are you shopping at Walmart? you're just funding the same system developed by marxists to concentrate the wealth and power in a few corporates and destroy any entrepreneurial efforts by the common man
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Moist 3 weeks ago
and wtf are you even talking about changing laws. what laws? no law exists preventing the use of btc in "free" countries (its generally banned in islamic ones, for obvious reasons). CGT is the only offputting aspect for some but that doesn't need a law, it needs fucktards to stop treating btc as an investment asset. start using for buying coffees etc and the governments will soon give up. buy a coffee for say 6000 sats. firstly the CGT is likely to be minimal anyway, but how would you even calculate it? which exact sats are you using? did you acquire them all at then same fiat rate? all it takes to defeat the government is everyday use of btc. weird how people in the slums of Africa and Asia get this, but Westerners don't. probably due to those years of indoctrination they call "education"
But they know how much you have and what you do with it unless you're an OPSEC expert who's never made a mistake in the past, present or future. Because of this you are always susceptible to their coercion. If they want to get you with lawfare, you will capitulate. Big talk. Use Monero if you want to fight the state, at least you have a fighting chance with it. Use Bitcoin if you're prepared to recieve scary IRS letters and legal threats which can and will be acted on to make you an example.
Tax laws do. Also regulators make de facto laws, and they've made it clear that use of mixers will get your UTXOs on a tainted list making them impossible to off ramp except for p2p exchanges like Bisq, or to swap sites for other cryptocurrencies. Normies see this and would rather pay with Apple Pay and avoid 10x the tax accounting labor, and increased surveillance.
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Moist 2 weeks ago
tax laws do not prevent the use of bitcoin. the might make it more difficult depending on your country and circumstance, but they don't prevent its use. agree about the de facto laws, or more like the arbitrary interpretation of existing laws. but like anything new, it takes a few court cases to clarify the interpretation. obviously if bitcoin does become the default currency then governments will start writing new laws as their tax income will evaporate. but thata a whole different conversation about the role government shoukd play
Bitcoin will never become the default currency as long as it doesn't have privacy by default. The lawfare and tax attack vectors are too strong and will always persist. Notice how we went from nearly 0 taxes in the gold/silver standard with paper currency then now have astronomical taxes and surveillance with ACH transfers and Visa/Mastercard. Notice how even the normie values getting tipped in cash more knowing that they can get away with not paying income tax on it with 100% confidence. Nearly every tradesmen you hire will give you a cash discount for this reason. We need L1 privacy by default or Bitcoin is DOA as medium-of-exchange.
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Moist 2 weeks ago
the taxes aren't because of the currency, they're because people gave their autonomy to the state. doesn't matter what currency or privacy, we've let our governments invent new taxes and hot sucked into the "tax the rich" nonsense which actually means "destroy the middle class". we are way off topic now though. the original comment was about needing new laws to able to use bitcoin. we don't, you can start using it today. as for the cash angle, I'm sure some use the cash as a tax avoidance method, but having run small businesses myself that was never why I did it. simply that cash was instant and useable, and I could keep a stash at home. and avoided the bank/card fees. there are many, many other ways to avoid tax
Or don’t live in a Nazi state like the US and don’t submit to their humiliation rituals (tax reporting) that pay for the wars of Israel. Worked for me for 38 years.
Normies can get taxed to death while being afraid or grow a pair and exit the system. Their choice.
"We need" is pleading from the prison camps. Start thinking "We will" no matter what some asshole says you can or can't do. Be the example, don't accept "leaders". Your politicians are all followers. If they weren't, they would not survive in the system, because it is a slave hierarchy with one master at the top; Satan.
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the axiom 2 weeks ago
the worst are the people who say "the system is corrupt, pedophiles rule, it is rigged, that's why we need a law to do whatever" as if there was any chance such system would deliver such a law
A lot of us have a lot to lose by emmigrating and little to gain even still. It's a hard sell for an American. Also this is my home, I'd rather work to reform it than flee, many Americans feel the same way. That doesn't address what I've brought up, Europe is the same way, and the US makes sure their legal reach extends to all. Look at Roger Ver, he even renounced citizenship and they still got him.
Fair enough, yet I don’t see a way for controllers loosening the grip on the US, at least until it’s still the hegemony of the world. Also, US people often forget Europe is not a country and what you see happening in the CIA occupied West is not necessarily the same in the East. Think about the Balkans as a de facto separate and semi-independent Europe. It’s not a backwater place anymore. Suggest you visit, look around, interact with the locals, ask them about what they think about government, taxes, compliance and you might fall in love with the place.
Yeah I've been impressed particularly with EU countries like Poland for their resilience. Unfortunately I'm American and could never see myself living in another country. I quite like Italy and can speak a good bit of Italian but had a uncomfortable feeling of being a foreigner that I couldn't shake when I visited for a week. Thank you for the the suggestion though, I will admire my European brothers from afar.
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