That ship has sailed, sir. Sats, the standard.

If you’re dealing with sats, I think it should say sats. If you’re trying to help the noobs out, at least provide the option to change to unit display. My 2 sats. 😎

I am with fiatj on this one, found it confusing when I used broadwalk the first timr I still hear new users saying they can never afford 1 Bitcoin, not knowing it is 100,000,000 sats Not sure what the answer is here, you are free to build broadwalk how ever you like

That'd be very confusing as this is the unit symbol for 1 BTC which is 100 m sats.

What about the three line 'pancake' stack symbol?

Just because there isn't a standard UTF-8 symbol (yet) doesn't mean ₿ is the correct answer either. ₿ is widely known to refer to Bitcoin, not sats. You're, at this point in time, more prone to find someone that knows the symbol depicted below to mean sats, than ₿ - That's the current reality, that's how things evolved, for better or worse. I think it's one of those "pick your battles" situations - Given how entrenched it is at this point, it's worth really asking yourself what has more worth - Fighting against this particular current, or putting energy into things that improve the current UX landscape. Well-known sats symbol, as used in Snort.social:

Sat Symbol - Support the design initiative to make this the universal Satoshi symbol. Open, free, and unrestricted as Satoshi would have wanted. Please share. Satoshi Symbol, Sats Symbol.

i like it, but didn't get adopted by any wallets that i know of

I appreciate the reasoning.

I think there's also a perspective worth evaluating whereby trying to explain unknown stuff, we over-complicate in the process. In that regard, if we want to keep it as simple as possible, the explanation/comparison of Bitcoin to the Dollar and sats to the cents (or whichever fiat currency they are familiar with), is in that context an extremely easy one for a new user to grasp because it conjoins the familiar with the unknown. And maybe, that's all we really need. It just needs to be clear when a user is onboarded (Note, I don't think we need to SHOW the fiat value, just convey the comparison). Also worth noting as Bitcoin's value rises, sats may also be less and less attainable - And I think that's where your thinking comes in of keeping to a singular name which is understandable - Keep it simple, whilst allowing expansion. I think it'll be a wait and see game, because sats really did gain a lot of traction with the introduction of Lightning, and rightly so. And personally I think all this will come very very naturally - Up until relatively recently, the bitcoin unit was very attainable by the average person. In the present, not so much, and yet we're seeing more and more adoption - A string being pulled in seemingly opposite directions. It'll work out in the end.

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See thread. “10,000 sats” or “B 0.0001” are worse. View quoted note →

Yes, I'm doing the same in chachi.chat Sats are bitcoins, don't listen to the nerds.

yes! View quoted note →

Impatient solution to a non-problem long term. Sats should stay

µ₿ would be the correct way to do this technically, right? 1µ₿ = 100 sats

The difference in scale/format can make it work, like epoch seconds versus epoch milliseconds, and integer milliseconds versus floating point seconds. If an apple is 1000₿, or a house is 2.642344₿ it's easy to infer scale. It's less ideal for sending because you might want to send "one BTC", but the sending interface could confirm the amount in "sats" ₿ before sending. In general I find displaying whole BTC to be poor UX for most people, as does using the term "sats".

When bitcoin is the only money anyone uses it won’t need a symbol at all. View quoted note →