You're not making sense You implied no online node is needed for lightning custody This contradicts what I know about lightning so I asked you to clarify and your response doesn't seem to clarify You're saying nobody can take or spend them without stealing your keys, but by my understanding, that must mean those coins are not on the lightning network, because you or someone else would have explained by now in this discussion or the many others I've had about it But by all means, feel free to finally tell me what I'm missing if it exists and you've all just been refusing to say it this whole time