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I cant use my wallet or access my funds (luckily just a few bucks) because my wallet didnt update their mint and is vulnerable to being DOS'd Custodial solutions have important tradeoffs
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ShockWallet with CLINK is an alternative to #cashu
Better snatch that nut first 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Or to spend it? Unless you happen to be in the same mint. Lightning is a crucial part of what makes the entire thing work, you cant pretend that isnt the case
If its the same mint. Otherwise, they settle between each other over lightning. Thats how it works. Do you really not understand the very basics of the tech you shill?
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Hofer99 1 month ago
Ya basically just like custodial bitcoin. But probably with a couple advantages. Not against ecash, just looking for use cases.
Like yea, its technically possible to send ecash to another user in the same mint without lightning But youre basically not even dealing with bitcoin anymore at that point, and your argument itself is incredibly dishonest
It has use cases. But its not the ultimate solution that many proponents make it out to be I consider it a transitionary technology until self custody is better, anything more then bitcoin has failed
The mint details are embedded in the cashu token. Maybe use the tech before you go slinging mud. One of us def lacks understanding but it ain't me. U should try harder to be humble. Catch more flies with honey.
Omfg you actually have no idea what youre talking about, this is actually pathetic I truly hate when people talk with such confidence when they are clearly clueless
Hint: the token may have the details for the mint, but you still need to connect to the mint lol. And if you use a different mint, they setlle between each other with lightning. Thats πŸ‘ how πŸ‘ it πŸ‘ worksπŸ‘. Do you need this explained simpler?
Ahh, the clear sound of me winning the argument. Too easy
And then rug them in 5. Horray, financial independence! πŸ˜‚
Yea, thats obviously the solution moron. But custodial honeytraps are easier so the low IQ shills such as yourself are easily herded into the silos
Ecash has way better privacy than WoS and other pure lightning custodial solutions. Still all the same tradeoffs that come with giving up custody though, of course
I use minibits myself, btw. Usually great, but they havent updated their mint and are currently being DOS'd so I dont have access to those funds currently πŸ˜‰
Yep. I can onboard someone in about 10 seconds with #nostr #safebox and immediately pay them. I’ve onboarded about a dozen people over the last couple of weeks. All Cashu behind the scenes but looks and acts like a regular Lightning wallet. image
cashu.me is easiest because you don't have to ask any questions. It's the lowest friction solution usually but it's not uncommon to have issues with the camera permissions. This happened yesterday with the uber driver. I have also had issues with iphone lockdown mode failing to render the correct fonts. It's not a dealbreaker but it looks ugly and is not the best first impression to make. Best is to switch to a thick client app in this case. For android I recommend minibits, macadamia on iPhone. But the best wallet keeps changing. eNuts is making a comeback for iPhone. Minibits also just launched on iPhone iirc. I'm not an iphone user so I just crowdsource app recommendations. YMMV
Wallet of satoshi rebuilt on top of spark wallet. It has absolutely horrifying privacy properties. Like 1000x worse than their old custodial lightning architecture. They just publish everyone's transaction data publicly. Kind of astonishing for a 'bitcoin' company, honestly. The tradeoff is that they have offline receive to static addresses with stablecoin support. My recommendation is don't fuck with WoS. Just say no. It's a ticking time bomb. I have other thoughts but I haven't seriously inspected the architecture. I suspect spark wallets are going to get absolutely rekt when fees go up again. Like a repeat of the first lightning winter when plebs were getting force closed right and left but even worse due to spark's design.
enabling freedom money and protecting it via for example BIP444 and Bitcoin Knots also decentralizing it via DATUM, I am solo mining with BitAxe you sound defeatest not sure why is that ...
Bitcoin is Freedom Money. Not dickpics. You need to study Bitcoin harder.
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Spam devalaues Bitcoin. Spam is waste. Waste of processing power, waste of hash power, waste of bandwith and waste of storage space. Shitcoins are not valuable becuase they are different kinds of spam. Bitcoin is Money and that is where its value is.
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Did I tell you to study Bitcoin harder? Why do you embarrass yourself like that? I am all in on Bitcoin because Bitcoin is the Greatest Freedom Money, Store of Value and Hope for Humanity. Betting and gabling in the casino gulag is mostly done by shitcoiners, which some of the Core devs has turned into. Do you also suck Citrea's Ethhereum shitcoin cock? Or Jameson Slopp's? Or Udi's? Or all of them?
i love cashu.me but it feels like a power user tool still. less so than zeus but there's too many buttons/info for a new users imo. i dont have an iphone but what i've seen from macadamia screenshots are amazing, looks very clean and nice. used to love minibits but again i feel the UX is a little too janky. enuts had a great UI, hope they can be the easy cross-platform solution.
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