Philanthropy can be a serious hinderance.
Don't take it unless you absolutely can't do without it. It's a really bad incentive.
Go try to make a profit, the market knows best.
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Is that the pitch to Opensats donors?
Artists invariably need people, strangers even, to invest in the creative process in order to produce art beyond its utility or monetary value.
Nostr projects have a nice opportunity to bootstrap via grants, while retaining full control and ownership.
But continuing to fund via grants over the long term does seem to be detremental for most projects. It kills any sense of urgency. The incentives are not there to build a useful product for users.
Cosign.
doesn't seem like your VCs make it any better, or are your devs just missing some screws or something
Yes


Bill Gates philanthropy is absolute evil
True 😉🤟🤝
That's a market
Not seeing meaningful impact
this is why i weaned my smol business off the grant train 8 months ago. still here. still focused on being sustainable.
burn rate low, i will outlast both grants and VCs flooding the market with free subsidized services because I only have an obligation to my customers.
There's no one stopping other investors from betting on what they think is a better horse.
That is beside the point that grants lead to economic lethargy, when they're too generous or long-term. Humans need a sense of urgency, to stay focused and recognize opportunity.
Not all heros wear capes.


with most nostr grants i think the problem is they aren't targeted at a purpose just "do whatever" even though they say that at the beginning, not one grantee seems to stay on one task and get it done properly
Because they don't want to micromanage them. Grant-givers aren't bosses and NGOs aren't businesses; they're charities.
Businesses need to be run for-profit, so that the market is the boss.
Sorry, wrong emoji. 😂
the other bizarre thing about the grants is that they all pretty much seem to be for clients, and nothing is about getting a concept for a business off the ground
cloudfodder is one exception i know of
Do you have a short list of business use cases for Nostr? What kind of projects might dev/teams make a profit with?
Business tooling/software (invoicing, bookkeeping timekeeping etc.etc.). You wont be the only one looking at that, but thats kind of the point.
I think nostr.build also had a grant and managed to actually launch from there.
And Damus. Say what you will, but Will actually seems to want to make legit money.
What the hell is a "plan"?
Having a plan is hell.
Only if it is made by the wrong person.
We have a plan.
Is the wrong person for making a plan not always the same person? Where this same person is always "someone with incompatible values compared to mine".
( @Vitor Pamplona I' just vibing with taking the opposition to you.)
Are you from hell?
No, we have a heavenly plan to bring knowledge to the huddled masses. 😁
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I am thankful for this specifi url from you. 🫂
Do I come finally in close contact with your project which you were taking with you to @npub1purp...zkzp Hessen and I actively got around back then? #purplekonnektiv
Hilarious 🤣
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Hahaha @ Odell
Yes. Grants as your ante and the rest from winning hands.
It’s important that we openly discuss and get to know all of the Nostr business use cases. So forgive me if I dig deeper…
What about Nostr makes it desirable for building “private intranet” tools and software?
damus has a revenue model?
It took some digging but here is a slidedeck on the topic.
We are working on an idea how to build SAAS business apps on top of Nostr. The idea is to rebuild apps like Slack, Notion, Figma, Github, Linear on single Nostr relay and Nostr standard that would allow some cool things like seamless cross-app messaging (e.g. like Slack <> Linear), cross-app workflows.
Here is PDF with more details.: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U_bC4AmR2_61GwgiShNv_EctOcyh4u7A/view?usp=drive_link
If anybody is working on something similar or like the idea and want to join our efforts, please let me know.
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