I will likely be looking to self-host it without umbrel, I prefer to get my hands dirty with the terminal and manual configuration anyways, it's always been my preferred way to set things up!
Reading about haven, I really want to set it up right now, but it's late here, so I shall have to try to make time for that tomorrow instead! ๐น
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Yup, if you have the technical know-how, then going the terminal install and manual configuration route is best. I installed HAVEN that way for this npub, and would happily do so again.
It's nice to have a more approachable version for less technical users, though. It would be great if more Nostr users were running their own personal relays for more than just keeping a backup copy of their notes.