Isn't it odd how what Gary said is seen as basically normal, but if it were more like:
... he went on to tell me about finding Doug the Magic Rock in 2011 when the holy sediment spirit moved through him in the form of a massive kidney stone, subsequent surgeries, and his recovery. He quoted JRR Tolkien, an elementry geology text book, and something about crystal healing then told me my hand carved marbel palace awaits.
all the sudden he's just a loon who's off his meds.
