If you think what Israel is doing in Gaza is not kosher, I agree with you. But it is not as simple as it might seem at first glance. Shouldn’t the local government, aka Hamás, be responsible for evacuating civilians? Why are they not negotiating the rescue of their own people? You know, using civilians as human shields is a war crime as well.
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I do not know. To me, the text of the convention does not seem unreasonable, but I think that back in the late forties, they assumed the conflicts would be pretty much symmetrical. That is, the occupied country would evacuate and temporarily relocate its people; like Ukraine is doing, for example. In the case of Hamás, though, they would need to be more than just a group of terrorists showing zero care for the civilians in Gaza. They should be the ones negotiating refuge and safe harbor for their people, but instead, they use them as human shields and blame Israel. So you are right in this point, but I still think Israel should not have fallen for this trap and should continue only with the most surgical approach possible. I know how difficult and time-consuming that would be, but it would be the right thing to do. View quoted note →
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That is a known fact, but I am not sure how it is relevant to what I am saying. Bibi learned the hard way that you cannot bribe terrorists to keep peace.
Then I don’t quite get the point of your question. If Hamas is obviously compromised and used as a tool to further Israel’s genocide in Gaza, why would they really care about Palestinian lives?
Your premise is completely wrong, and you need to learn the basics of the Laws of Land Warfare. I'd start with Wikipedia. And there is no credible evidence of Hamas using human shields (Israel would Hannibal Doctrine civilian shields anyway, so it would be useless and Hamas know it). But lots of footage of Israeli soldiers forcing civilians to enter mined areas ahead of them, to defuse IEDs at gunpoint, and to stand in front of troops.
I think that you are misinterpreting it. Israel was bribing Hamás for years, but that does not make Hamás compromised and/or Israel's tool. It makes Israelis useful idiots who believed that peace can be bought from the fanatics.
“Bribing” doesn’t cover it. Israel CREATED hamas. Israel CREATED ISIS and ISIL and the taliban. Sure they did a lot of that with the help of the CIA. But “bribing” is severely downplaying the reality of the situation in order to still attempt to create sympathy for Israel.
I think the opposite about you, to be honest. Look at Netanyahu, he is the prototype of an inept populist. Yes, Mossad pulls off some pretty cool stuff. The exploding pagers, that was something. But I do not buy that they are orchestrating whole nations and governments to seemingly attack them, but in fact to do their bidding. That is unlikely, if not completely impossible.
I don't think I'll be able to convince you without throwing dozens of books and videos at you and even then you’d have to invest at least a few hundreds of hours to be convinced. I’m fine with people having different opinions though. No harm done. But I’m sure Israel will fall sooner or later and then it’ll all be obvious.
I think this is a fair conclusion. Agree to disagree. If it comes to it, I'm ready to admit that I was wrong...