In episode 7 of season 2, @Super Testnet comes on the Outlaw Crypto Podcast to debate privacy on Lightning vs. Privacy coins like XMR!
https://podcast.paranoiamachinery.com/@paranoia_machinery/episodes/supertestnet-lightnings-privacy-episode-7-season-2-outlaw-crypto-podcast
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I find it interesting that his guest basically knew nothing about the fact that every big dark net market has completely abandoned Bitcoin. Like it takes five minutes or less on dread to figure that out.
bitcoin maxis don't actually use bitcoin, they use IOUs representing someone else's bitcoin