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And to the opposite extreme, those who barely have anything often barely make any effort to change that. So many impoverished people around me have no interest in taking initiative. This is always overlooked, not saying you necessarily, don't know your actual views, but by socialists I've met personally. Yes, the money and the wage system are exploitative, but so are many welfare and public housing recipients. I've watched the neighborhood down the road from me when the bus stops. It takes actual minutes for all the kids to come pouring out. That many people do not want that many kids while living in affordable housing because they're so family oriented. They do it because of semimarxist incentives.