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jack 2 years ago
Does nostr care about scraping?

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zxcv 2 years ago
I assume my paywalled material will be safe from that… otherwise, no, I encourage it. Free samples vibe
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alphakamp 2 years ago
I don't remember agreeing to let AI use my content🤔
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Nostr OG 2 years ago
This question is deeper than first meets the eye. Thought provoking the more you zoom out.
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System 2 years ago
We scrape hard here, Jack.
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partof 2 years ago
probably this will still have to be clarified, as we might encounter problems through e.g. AI that we cannot yet fully assess
I think most people publish notes with clients of individual people in mind, not more systematic, analyzing in bulk scrapers.
Jack do you think that there could be a coordinated attack on Twitter via scraping? I don't know enough about any of this but it just made me think of a DNS attack.
Cc: note1e7tf43su46rd75ylks7xhapdj523racmw8gkals6eznfh84mp3es56a5wn
No, but relay operators will be forced to implement some sort.of rate limiting of they face a serious level of DDoS. The free scrapeability of Nostr is a privacy concern though. Especially mm if people use the same identity for everything: Notes/Zaps, markets, Highlighter, Nests, Blogging etc etc. Perfect fodder for analytics companies. Especially since most Nostr users reuse their Twitter identity, for credibility reasons
Hi there , is Twitter is dawn or I’m banned ? Never happened to me before. This is ww3 shit if communications are down or suppressed.
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Cyber Seagull 2 years ago
It's more likely that this behavior has been going on for a while, doesn't even vost that much but elon just doesn't want to pay for it , and it's part of his war against Open Ai. Especially since the cost of making it walled off, losing usefulness, is greater. It could also be a marketing thing. Keep twitter exclusive, desired, elite.
Jack question I think you would know there's clearly a lot more than AI scraping going on.
I got rate limited after 10 min of scrolling on TwitterThis is frustrating. Maybe Twitter should push a "I am not a robot" test every thousand posts, with consequences for failed tests.
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maostr 2 years ago
I guess relays care if scraping gets intense enough
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Geist 2 years ago
If anything paid relays will arise geared towards scrapers, and other relays will impose sensible rate limits that allow general usage of nostr but block you from pushing 1,000 requests a second or something.
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nobody 2 years ago
it should. those relying on the content production of creators, and never create anything unique or interesting obviously love open roadmaps to stealing and capitalising on the proof of work of others. i operate free&fair_use because there's no other efficient method to efficiently navigate the data theft apparatuses, remain independent, and still be productive. the main reason behind the writer's strike is rooted in this - there's very little efficacy in keeping original pow data private during development in a smart tuned environment anymore. i have built identity from it, but i have made no financial profits; if i ever wanted to publish a unique piece i could use that notoriety to extract actual value from a traditional system - maybe. i have not sold anything or collaborated in any ways which generates actual useful profits. all claims of collaborating are completely bogus and opportunist except for the treehouse and even those are indirect. my time and content is all donated - not because i like the mining community, but because it's the most effective method of navigating wild. if i was not independently wealthy in practical way - my practice as it is currently would not be sustainable. scraping is data and identity data theft. jargon protects predatory models.